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2 US Congressmen ask French PM to disband MIVILUDES

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U.S. Congressmen Trent Franks (R-Arizona) and Heath Shuler (D-North Carolina) signed a letter dated October 28, 2011 and addressed to French Prime Minister François Fillon, asking him to disband MIVILUDES, the Interministerial Mission of Vigilance and Combat against Sectarian Abuses.

Congressmen Franks and Shuler complain that MIVILUDES is trying to export its methods and encourage other countries to adopt their own About-Picard law. Coincidentally, on the date of the letter, MIVILUDES president Georges Fenech was about to travel to Australia to speak at the CIFS conference on cults in Australia in the first week of November at the invitation of Senator Nick Xenophon, who favors the creation of an agency similar to MIVILUDES.

The congressmen also criticize the French Ministry of Justice for issuing a circular containing information about cults to magistrates and prosecutors in September 2011. This is the same circular that Scientology lawyer Michel de Guillenchmidt condemned a few days before the November 3 Scientology appeal trial, claiming that the circular was a blatant attempt to pressure the court into convicting Scientology.

Congressman Trent Franks has signed this kind of letter before, as explained in a 2009 Gawker article: Did Scientology Enlist Congressional Stooges to Attack France?

The text of the letter and a snapshot appear below. A pdf containing images of the letter can be downloaded here:
http://www.sectes-infos.net/congress_US_Fillon.pdf
or here (French Scientology religious freedom lobby front group):
http://www<dot>coordiap<dot>com/Document/letter%20of%20Congress/US.pdf

Credit to Roger Gonnet for mentioning this letter in a post on the French Google Groups forum on cults:
la secte criminelle écrit à Fillon
Congress of the United States
House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515-3311

HEATH SHULER
11th District, North Carolina
229 Cannon House Office Building
Washington DC, 20515
Phone (202) 225-6401
Fax (202) 226-6422

205 College Street, Suite 100
Asheville, NC 28801
Phone (828) 252-1651
Fax (828) 252-8734

Co-Chair

COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE
Subcommittee on Highways and Transit

Subcommittee on Economic Development, Public Buildings, and Emergency Management

COMMITTEE ON THE BUDGET

THE STEERING AND POLICY COMMITTEE

Regional Whip

October 28, 2011


Prime Minister François Fillon
Hôtel de Matignon
57, rue de Varenne
75700 Paris


Dear Mr. Prime Minister,

We write as Members of Congress and the Co-chairs of the House International Religious Freedom Caucus to express our deep concern over rising governmental restrictions on religion in France. According to an August 2011 report produced by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, "Rising Restrictions on Religion," France was one of only 14 countries in the world, and one of only two countries in Europe, that had a substantial increase in government restrictions on religion from mid-2006 to mid-2009.

In particular, we are concerned about the French government's program against sectarian drifts and its efforts to export this "model" to other countries.

First, we recall that a 1995 parliamentary commission published a "black list" of 173 sects, and that this list was officially rejected by the-Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin in a 2005 circular letter. But we have seen evidence that this "black list" is still being used to routinely discriminate against listed religious communities, and against individual members of these communities. For instance, we have seen letters from local governments and banks, denying these communities the ability to open bank accounts, and denying them the ability to rent public rooms for meetings.

Second, we recall that the Interministerial Mission in the Fight against Sects/Cults (MILS) was disbanded after its President resigned in 2002, and after the French government rightfully acknowledged that MILS had been criticized for certain actions abroad (exporting its model) that were perceived as contrary to religious freedom. The Interministerial Mission for Vigilance and to Combat Sectarian Aberrations (MIVILUDES) replaced MILS, and was initially praised for taking a more moderate and balanced approach. But in 2005, the policy of MIVILUDES was reoriented, and in 2008, Mr. Georges Fenech was appointed as its president.

Mr. Fenech's comments, couples with reports of the actions MIVILUDES is taking under his leadership, raise serious concerns regarding protection for an individual's right to freedom of religion in France. On August 3, 2009, for example, Libération reported that Mr. Fenech claimed that France is the only country in the world to have established freedom while France is at the forefront in the fight against sects. In the same interview, Mr. Fenech acknowledged that MIVILUDES maintains an unpublished "system of reference" of more than 500 groups and movements, and we are concerned that MIVILUDES is acting as a judge of investigation, systematically evaluating and judging the doctrines and values of targeted movements — including religions that are recognized worldwide — and publishing reports and generating media stories that publicly stigmatize them. Further, MIVILUDES makes this system of reference available to government officials and to professionals in many fields, and organizes education and training programs for magistrates, law enforcement and social workers. MIVILUDES presents these officials with information on specific religious communities without giving targeted groups a chance to explain themselves, correct inaccuracies and refute accusations. We understand a new curriculum on "sectarian movements" has also begun at a Paris university for medical doctors and psychologists, and that apostates of various minority religious groups testify as part of the studies.

Third, we recall that the 2001 About-Picard law established "techniques capable of altering one's judgment" and "psychological subjection" as criminal activities, making targeted groups and movements subject to prosecution and dissolution. But on April 26, 2001, 50 members of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe signed Declaration 321, expressing their concern about the proposed law. And on November 18, 2002, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe adopted Resolution 1309 on the About-Picard law, calling on the French government to "reconsider the law." But the law was never reconsidered, and it gives standing to anti-sect associations to initiate criminal actions and testify against targeted groups. Further, the French government provides a majority of the funding to a network or these associations, including the European Federation of Centers of Research and Information on Sectarianism (FECRIS). We are concerned that, with public funds, these associations are attacking and defaming communities and individuals for their beliefs and practices, often in coordination with MIVILUDES.

Fourth, we understand a new circular has been enacted by the Ministry of Justice that gives directions to prosecutor and judges of the French Appeals Court to consider certain religious practices, such as fasting, as means of "psychological subjection." Further, the circular gives directives to magistrates to work "in partnership" with anti-sect associations that are opposed to a targeted movement in a trial. We are concerned that there is no chance for justice for these movements, and this appears to be a direct intervention of the executive to influence and guide the decisions of magistrates in criminal cases.

Finally, we understand that MIVILUDES is currently doing exactly what MILS was criticized and disbanded for — taking certain actions abroad (exporting its model) that were perceived as contrary to religious freedom. The roots of these exporting actions go back to 2006, when the report of the Commission of Enquiry Regarding the Influence of Sects on Minors recommended strenghthening MIVILUDES activities at the international level. And the recent quarterly updates of MIVILUDES describe how its leaders are actively promoting better coordination at the European level, including a European study program, a European program for sectarian drifts and replication of the About-Picard law. Further, MIVILUDES delegations have traveled and/or met with leaders of several countries, including foreign embassies, members of parliaments, and anti-sect associations.

Such actions appear to evidence a clear bias against a large number of religious communities and their adherents and impose arbitrary restrictions on an individual's human rights. Further, designating specific beliefs and communities as sects and restricting the freedom of conscience is inconsistent with French principles, the Constitution and international standards on religious freedom.

As an ally of the United States, committed to our common concern for fundamental human rights, we sincerely urge the Government of France to review the policies of MIVILUDES, and to disband this interministerial mission — just as it disbanded MILS in 2002 — and withdraw public funding from anti-sect associations if they are found to be taking actions that are contrary to French principles, the French Constitution, and Frances international obligations.

Thank you for taking the time to consider these concerns and we genuinely look forward to speaking with you at your convenience about this matter in more detail.

Most sincerely,

Trent Franks
Heath Shuler

CC:
The Honorable François Delattre, The Ambassador of France
The Honorable Charles H. Rivkin, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary, U.S. Embassy Paris, France
The Honorable Mark. A. Taplin, Charge D'Affairs, U.S. Embassy Paris, France
The Honorable Thomas O. Melia, Deputy Assistant Secretary Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, U.S. State Department
The Honorable Suzan Johnson Cook, Ambassador at Large for International Religious Freedom, U.S. State Department




 

Petey C

Silver Meritorious Patron
Thanks for posting. I hope all y'all North Carolinians and Arizonans will be writing to your congressmen/women to put the other side of the story.

I heard Georges Fenech of MIVILUDES at the recent CIFS conference in Parliament House, Canberra, and thought the work his unit is doing is fantastic. It's not about freedom of religion. It's about the destructive behaviour of cults.
 

scooter

Gold Meritorious Patron
Cult is doing what it's always done - grasp at straws to stop its inevitable extinction.:yes:

Dumb politicians need educating on why cults must be monitored. Otherwise they'll just take on whatever cult propaganda they get and spout it. Stupidly.

These two need to woken up to the abuses that Co$ and others perpetrate.

Or "we" find their crimes :biggrin:
 

Ogsonofgroo

Crusader
Suddenly I like France a lot more!:yes:

Me too, I'll be pretty pissed if they surrender again though... :p

Stupid american politicians are pretty stupid, gah, are these paid & bought shills?

Sounds like it.

Our's are no better ATM, even our shit PM is selling the people out, fucking traitor imho.~~~~~~ maybe his mom should be ashamed for not dropping him moar.....


oi.
 

Captain Koolaid

Patron Meritorious
The French won't back down, despite their reputation of being surrender monkeys :biggrin: I wonder what other country those stooges referred to? Could it be the "land of intolerance"?
 

Div6

Crusader
Ok...lessee. Heath Schuler. Former quarterback for the Washington Redskins. Was traded to another team, suffered a foot injury, went to a third team, re-injured his foot, ended his career. After retiring from the NFL, Shuler returned to the University of Tennessee and completed his education, graduating with a degree in psychology. He then became a real estate professional in Knoxville.

Seems like he has hooked up with the right "team". Prediliction to "chronic footbulletitis" coupled with a desire to dominate via "psychology" and real estate shell games. Yep...perfect match.

Trent Franks? Blew off college to drill oil wells in Texas and Arizona...when that get rich quick scheme didn't work out, he did what they all do...went into politics.

Looks like Sue Taylor has been busy.
 

johnAnchovie

Still raging
America: Home and haven for wakey cults, religious extremists and repressive psychotic dictators.... How far we travelled since Woodstock. :no:
 

La La Lou Lou

Crusader
Good point Mr Anchovie, and it's not just America that's lost the plot, think I'll have to grow my hair long again take the boots off wrap myself in tie died and paisley and teach the young ones how to rebel.
 

RogerB

Crusader
Cult is doing what it's always done - grasp at straws to stop its inevitable extinction.:yes:

Dumb politicians need educating on why cults must be monitored. Otherwise they'll just take on whatever cult propaganda they get and spout it. Stupidly.

These two need to woken up to the abuses that Co$ and others perpetrate.

Or "we" find their crimes :biggrin:

Or, better, we expose these dogs to their electorate for selling the $cn song.

In other words, make it unsafe for politicians to support the cult even under the guise of "religious freedom."

I wonder how long they would stay in office once they are rightfully exposed for having sold out to, been bought by, you know who.

In the upcoming election, this is something their opponents could benefit from knowing and using.

R
 

Freeminds

Bitter defrocked apostate
I was trying to understand the difference between religion and cult, so I googled and found thid bit of Graeme Wilson drivel supported by the BBC?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/1999/02/99/e-cyclopedia/392396.stm

Looks like the UK needs MILILUDES's help.

That BBC article is none too kind to the Scientology UFO cult. I don't think they're being naive. The "Graeme Wilson drivel" achieves nothing except to appear creepy, cultish and deluded.

The article is from 1999, and the decline in Scientology's fortunes is clear. Ten thousand members? My arse. 15 "churches"... er, nope! Or not anymore, anyway.

It's nice to see these vintage pieces, and chart the disappearance of Hubbard's fantasy.
 

Lermanet_com

Gold Meritorious Patron
That BBC article is none too kind to the Scientology UFO cult. I don't think they're being naive. The "Graeme Wilson drivel" achieves nothing except to appear creepy, cultish and deluded.

The article is from 1999, and the decline in Scientology's fortunes is clear. Ten thousand members? My arse. 15 "churches"... er, nope! Or not anymore, anyway.

It's nice to see these vintage pieces, and chart the disappearance of Hubbard's fantasy.

I thought this "Graeme Wilson drivel" was pretty cool, webbed it a decade ago..was sent to me by Michael Pattinson OT8..

 
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