ESMB has entered archive mode. All posts and threads that were available to the general public are still readable. The board is still searchable. 

Thank you all for your participation and readership over the last 12 years.

If you want to join in the conversation, please join the new ESMB Redux at www.exscn2.net.



A little announcement

Discussion in 'Narconon, Drug Free World, and Other Anti-drug Fro' started by 10oriocookies, Feb 17, 2013.

View Users: View Users
  1. 10oriocookies

    10oriocookies Patron with Honors

  2. CoolHand

    CoolHand Patron with Honors

    It looks like you have to be registered to see the thread over there. Loved the letter and welcome!!!! Poor Daniel at Flag, he has no idea what people are talking about when he has to "handle them" since he's not allowed to see any of the material himself and doesn't have the luxury of thinking for himself.
     
  3. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Scientologist & Former Narconon Exec's Resignation Letter to Chief Public MAA

    Reprinted with permission:

    Congratulations, Eric!!

     
  4. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Thanks, Luke. It's been re-posted here, so the general public can see and read it :)
    http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12267.0.html
     
  5. Boson Wog Stark

    Boson Wog Stark Patron Meritorious

    As first a patient there, and then a worker at Narconon, Eric lent/gave them $250,000 so they could pay utility bills? And then Scientology has the nerve to security check a person who gave them that kind of money?

    You would think that these days, the risk would be too great of putting executives in the Hole, or doing this kind of security checking on a wealthy worker, but evidently, it isn't. What hope is there for the people who spent their last dime on Narconon, and face no real job prospects except working for them?

    If anyone can ask Eric, I think it would be interesting to know these days, what he feels was the most effective barrier that was used, to prevent him from looking on the Internet earlier than he did?

    In Dec. 1995, there were 16 million users of the Internet. By 2005, it had grown to 1018 million users and in 2012, it grew to 2405 million users, about 34.3% of the world's population.

    The use of mobile devices and sites like YouTube and Facebook have grown the Internet even more, as a way of exploring niche interests and areas especially -- including Scientology -- in addition to greater detail about news events.

    The Internet has become fully integrated with college work, and in many high schools too. So, if is used to study and expand areas of interest. If people are interested in Scientology, why the hell aren't they using the Internet to explore it fully before devoting so much of their time and life to it?

    They have hundreds of books and a variety of courses to choose from in Scientology -- why aren't they using the Internet to help them make those choices?

    I guess there still must be people than when they are buying a TV set, they'd rather go to Sears and listen to the sales person tell them what TV is the best for them, than read on the web what all sorts of technical experts and users have to say about the TV?

    At what point does the Internet become attractive to people as the valuable source of information that it is? How long can the cult keep imposing this concept of, "Most of the stuff about Scientology on the Internet is false, especially by people who were in it for decades but left, but what LRH says, and what we say is true. We have your best interests at heart. The Internet is evil and wants to deceive and mislead you. Our 1950's Dianutty tech is better and you will learn to be certain of that. Now, see the Registrar."
     
  6. ChurchOfCylontology

    ChurchOfCylontology Patron with Honors

    Ohrly? Does anyone have any intell on this claim? I'd love to know if the IRS is finally getting off their fat asses and looking into some of this.
     
  7. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    This occurred back in 2008 2009 at Narconon Stone Hawk. I believe the reasons for the very large assessments were due violations of nonprofit status -personal inurement by Per and Kate Wickstrom because they not only received high salaries but they received rents via their other company, TIA CORP. They were also not paying in withholding taxes as required. The IRS, the state taxation dept and the state workers compensation all had liens on the company. Rather than lose the IRS status, I believe they were assessed taxes penalties and interest and Narconon Int cancelled their license
     
  8. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    I PM'd him at RFTTP forum about your questions. Hopefully you will hear back soon from him or via me on this
     
  9. MissWog

    MissWog Silver Meritorious Patron

    Boson & Cylon,
    id love it if you guys went over to Tipping and asked! Eric is on the thread and those questions would be great for that board in case folks are looking for info on Narcocon.

    Great questions!
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2013
  10. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Thanks!!
    BTW, thanks for joining :)
     
  11. Ogsonofgroo

    Ogsonofgroo Crusader

    This is a pretty big piece of awesome! Implosion by Truth. Tis a fine thing to behold imho :happydance:


    :cheers:
     
  12. 10oriocookies

    10oriocookies Patron with Honors

    I am Eric. You can ask me anything you want. Here's a list of posts ive held and been trained in. I worked at Chilocco, Arrowhead, Stone Hawk, Freedom Center and Spring Hill. On the "church" side of things I went up through NED, originated Clear and was sent to Flag to do CCRD. Didnt quite happen though. "I am not auditing you" and "Give me more money" were pretty much all I heard.


    Withdrawal Specialist
    New Life Detoxification In Charge
    Course Supervisor-Theory, Objectives and Practical
    Staff Course Supervisor
    Case Supervisor
    Senior Case Supervisor
    Ethics Officer
    Examiner
    Director of Validity
    Director of Personnel Enhancement
    Director of Correction
    Cramming Officer
    Qualifications Supervisor
    Advisory Council Member
    Financial Planning
    Senior Director of Administration
    Senior Director of Production
    Deputy Executive Director
    Executive Director
     
  13. MissWog

    MissWog Silver Meritorious Patron

    :welcome:
    I really enjoyed your answer over at Tipping Point
     
  14. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Yes, me, too.

    I promised Eric I would cross post this here:

    Questions from ESMB members
    on: February 17, 2013, 14:57
    10oriocookies

    More on this thread :)
    http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12268.0.html
     
  15. 10oriocookies

    10oriocookies Patron with Honors

    Thanks.
     
  16. NoName

    NoName A Girl Has No Name

    :welcome2:

    I think that NarCONon is the cult's weak point right now. It's always nice to see more potential 'raw meat' for the FBI and DHS investigations. I wonder how many more "bodies in the shop" the feds will need to bring the whole thing down?
     
  17. moarxenu

    moarxenu Patron with Honors

    I couldn't agree more. About three years ago I realized that lawsuits against the Church of Scientology were going to go nowhere because of US courts' doctrine of "ministerial exception" and shifted my activism to Narconon.

    As front groups purporting to be secular organizations Narconon and all the other fronts groups cannot count on ministerial exception.

    What we need now are complainants who refuse to settle and demand a jury trial.

    When it is established in a court of law that Narconon is Scientology, Narcxonon is dead in the water forever.