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Anti-Scientology Fair Game

Discussion in 'Fair Game and Disconnection Victims' started by Alanzo, Sep 11, 2019.

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  1. He-man

    He-man Hero extraordinary

    I don't think anyone said that. Emma never said that from what I can see neither.

    A bit of drama never hurted anyone, butthurts included.
     
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  2. Bill

    Bill Gold Meritorious Patron

    I was paraphrasing @Alanzo. What he said, repeatedly, was "I've been attacked! I've been Fair Gamed! Scientology Fair Gamed me, Anti-Scientology Fair Gamed me!! You all are against me!" Once again, because I'm lazy and can't be bothered to go collect the actual quotes, I'm paraphrasing but accurate.

    You see, now his victimhood has been verified and certified. Even I admit: Apparently, Alanzo really was the victim of doxxing. He really was a victim!

    I'm sure he will blame the wrong target, some "Anti-Scientology tribe" or some such but now he has proof!
     
  3. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    I have proof because it goes on. And I am not the only Ex-Scientologist to have received this kind of fair game from these people.

    If you want to know why I am a critic of what anti-Scientology has become, you have now seen it.

    What you do with what you have been shown so far, is up to you.

    More to come...
     
  4. Caroline

    Caroline Patron Meritorious

    As soon as Gerry escaped in December 1981, Miscavige/Hubbard sicced GO intel personnel on him. During the Armstrong 1 case, which started in 1982, Hubbard, David Miscavige, Mike Rinder, et al. used multiple Private Investigator firms, as well as at least one then active LAPD officer (Philip A. Rodriguez) and at least one former LAPD officer, Eugene Ingram. Scientologists Mike Rinder, Dan Sherman, Dave Kluge and others ran the Loyalist Program on Gerry (1984-5), which operation required the use of the LAPD personnel. Since the Griffith Park video operation, the Scientologists have used a cumulative cluster of PIs, OSA personnel, other Scientologist assets, including "ex-Scientologists," outside collaborators and dupes, all to silence or destroy Gerry and people who were friendly or supportive of him.

    No matter the personnel being used, the insider Scientologists, (not "insiders" like Chris Shelton) are/were in control of their operations. These insiders (conspirators against persons and rights) also controlled the in-house and outhouse attorneys, who protected PIs and dirty tricksters with "work product privileges," etc. I have not seen any evidence that the Scientologists' or the PIs embarrassing tactics embarrass the insiders. They have been growing "layers of protection" since they became an "onion."
     
  5. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Who are these people?

    This is too vague.

    Show the e-mail with xxxx covering personal information.

    Be specific.
     
  6. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

     
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  7. Bill

    Bill Gold Meritorious Patron

    Yes, you are a victim. True.

    But this is your fight, not mine. I'm not your enemy. I am not your friend. I'm not part of any of your "tribes". I am not part of your "Anti-Scientology" group. I am not part of any "Alanzo" group. This is your battle. Your fight, not mine.

    I find that one person's tactic, doxxing you, to be disgusting but that is not my problem. You can't "guilt" me into fighting your battles for you. I didn't "Fair Game" you, I didn't dox you, I didn't insult you. I argued with you and, unless the rules have changed here at ESMB, that's still allowed.

    What will I do about your problems? I will leave you to fight your battles and turn my attention to what I consider important things.
     
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  8. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    Not just me.

    There are lots of other Exes who are victims of these people.

    Just like in Scientology, the fair game is only real when it gets directed at YOU. Otherwise you don't see it.
     
  9. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Who are these people?

    This is too vague.

    Show the e-mail with xxxx covering personal information.

    Be specific.
     
  10. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    That's a load of crap, you just don't like that people are not buying your brand of fair game.

    I will say if the information is not true then it should have no effect on you.

    Why react to false information that you could easily prove wrong?
     
  11. Bill

    Bill Gold Meritorious Patron

    No, that isn't what's going on. This is specifically your battle. Yes there are other problems, abuses, crimes all over the world. But THIS is your battle, your problems, your drama, your victimhood. That's what this is right now.

    You've been going on and on and on about Karen and Jeffrey and Mike and Tony ... and on ... and that's your battle. You got doxxed and that's wrong but that's your battle, not mine.

    If you wanted ESMB allies in your battle -- or people to go and fight for you, you went about it the wrong way: accusing and fussing and lecturing and labeling. And now, after all that destructiveness and acrimony, you want me to go fight your battles for you? Not going to happen.
     
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  12. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    If this is not your battle at all, and you are not interested as you keep saying over and over, why are you still here?
     
  13. Bill

    Bill Gold Meritorious Patron

    Am I supposed to be banned for commenting on your problems? Are you in charge now? :laugh::hysterical::roflmao:
     
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  14. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    No Bill. You obviously ARE interested.

    Or you wouldn't be spending this much time on this.
     
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  15. Bill

    Bill Gold Meritorious Patron

    :faceslap:I am interested in your battle in the same way one can be interested in watching Tom Cruise self-destruct and comment about it. That's not me being willing to fight your battles for you. You don't seem to understand simple concepts.

    You want to be the victim? I'll watch you be the victim. :drama:
     
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  16. Warrior

    Warrior Patron with Honors

    I have always wanted to know if Gerry was intending to create false documents. I get that idea because of what he said here:

    Exhibit A: Transcript of Meeting between “Joey” and Gerry Armstrong (November 7, 1984)
    From http://armstrong-op.gerryarmstrong....een-joey-and-gerry-armstrong-november-7-1984/

    <begin quote from transcript>
    J … I need to know, like, what your strategy is regarding these type of things and what we’re looking at doing. (showing him docs)

    GA Well, I got a view, of course, from you, of course, that someone at

    7:00:00

    [legal] considered that I HELP was you know, their Achilles heel, as it were. (laughs) So we thought, shit, shouldn’t I get some I HELP materials, so hence I asked. Now issues, I wanted to know number one, how they’re run off, what the type face is like, are these like this? You know…

    J These are the real McCoys.

    GA You see, because I think that during a part of this, we can simply create these, you know, I can create documents with relative ease (laughter), you know, I did it for a living! (laughs again)
    <end quote from transcript>
     
  17. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    Are you serious? To meet other Exes, exchange ideas, hang out, and help people who left Scientology and get people out.

    You can't take people to court without a case. Speculation doesn't work.
     
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  18. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    Sorry, gaslighting doesn't work here, try going somewhere else to tell people what their reality is.
     
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  19. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    That can't be!
    No you can't be not interested.

    Tell you are interested
    :hissyfit:
     
  20. Caroline

    Caroline Patron Meritorious

    Gerry responded: http://gerryarmstrong.ca/the-false-document-idea/