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AOSHUK - Saint Hill RPF

Discussion in 'Europe' started by solo, Jun 4, 2008.

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  1. solo

    solo Patron with Honors

    WANTED - a list of people currently on the RPF at Saint Hill for post card campaign over on Enturb. Let's send those guys some hope! Post names here.
     
  2. DartSmohen

    DartSmohen Silver Meritorious Patron

    You could send one to Vicky Boyce - in anticipation of her arrival.

    :yes: :yes: :whistling: :eyeroll:
     
  3. Pixie

    Pixie Crusader

    :laugh:
     
  4. Pixie

    Pixie Crusader

    Good idea!! Welcome Solo!! :yes:
     
  5. solo

    solo Patron with Honors

    RPF at Saint Hill

    Hee hee, that had me laughing, poor Vicky!

    Thanks for your welcome, good to be here.

    Seriously, I read a report (lost thread but will try and do link later) by someone who saw the RPF lined up on the steps at Saint Hill at 1am, unable to speak to anyone. I also hear all Saint Hill crew have been on porridge 3 times a day for months and the RPF get their leftovers! They think this leads to total freedom? Let's liberate these people! NAMES PLEASE!
     
  6. Pixie

    Pixie Crusader

    Oh Jesus!! That doesn't surprise me at all. I spent three years at Saint Hill, I remember even then SO members coming into the refectory starving and looking for leftovers. I was on the TTC and helping out in the refectory for a time in order to pay my way as of course my org had no money but looking back, it just didn't seem real even then, it just didn't seem real that they were coming in looking for leftovers on the public's plates. This breaks my heart into pieces that I was so unaware of what was really going on. It was while working in there I first discovered what the RPF really was about and I remember it making me shudder but I was warned not to ask too many questions otherwise I'd have gotten into more trouble - I was almost always in trouble for something or other - this makes me sick, they were on beans and rice for months on end back then so one can only imagine the porridge to be no exaggeration. Please, if anyone knows anything.

    You know what, I have dreams about the place still, such a stunningly beautiful place but with such cruelty at it's heart. I dream of trekking accross the fields in the dark secretly filming this abuse and sending in the cops.. someone.. anyone to free those guys you know. It's disgusting, it's pitiful.. anyone have any names?? Names please????? :bigcry:
     
  7. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    I would be very surprised if the RPF is eating leftovers. But the oatmeal 3x a day I could believe, unfortunately.

    Good luck with the names. I haven't seen any recent SH defectors here.

    Paul
     
  8. Pixie

    Pixie Crusader

    For sure, however, there was one SO member who was a friend of mine, she was in love with someone on the RPF, it was heartbreaking and I used to catch her crying in the kitchen, I used to see her putting leftovers in a plastic bag and taking them to him, it's the stuff of Wuthering Heights. But you're right, no leftovers for the RPF, only the SO, and even then, only the ones of higher rankings. Has anyone ever tried to go undercover down there?
     
  9. DartSmohen

    DartSmohen Silver Meritorious Patron

    I simply cannot understand how or why guys on the RPF put up with that degraded BS.

    We never did. I have posted on this before.

    On my RPF we had a collection of wayward characters and some complete nutters. Even my MAA, Mick Parkee, normally a quiet and unobtrusive guy was quite happy to tell the Estates Org I/C to go and F**k himself. I remember Tony Phipps, on being told that he had to climb into the lake, told the Estates Org people they could go and F**k themselves, he was NOT going to get wet. They (Estates) backed right off.

    Funnily enough, we had this little Scots guy, red haired and a real dynamo. When he left the SO, one day he was standing on a railway platform in Kent. He chatted with this girl and they hit it off. Later they got married. The upside was that she had inherited over £200 million.

    We regularly ate better than the crew. If they had crap to eat, we bought our own food. The Stonelands cooks often came to us to beg for butter and sugar that they had run out of. We ALWAYS got a fair exchange.

    It is all down to your own personal code of honour, what you are willing to accept and what not. If you are prepared to debase yourself and be a doormat, then be prepared to be walked on all over. :yes: :yes:
     
  10. solo

    solo Patron with Honors

    AOSHUK Saint Hill RPF

    Well, Mick Parkee will have used everything he learned as the base cook I expect! Also, yes, Tony Phipps was tougher than he looked. However, I believe both are still in the SO. How to help them jump ship?

    Write to them! Post cards are good because they will accrue numerous fingerprints in transit. Ok, they may not receive them, but someone will see your message of hope. Word will get out! Offer help, friendship on the outside, the chance to be reunited with family and old friends. Why not just do it?

    NAMES PLEASE!!!

    Solo
     
  11. Lovesnightsky

    Lovesnightsky Silver Meritorious Patron

    Dick Jones, the old Plymouth ED, was there until a few months ago. Not sure if he's out yet.
     
  12. solo

    solo Patron with Honors

    Dick Jones may still be there - anyone know?

    Thanks, keep data coming! Start writing your post cards!

    Solo
     
  13. Pixie

    Pixie Crusader

    Amazing story about the Scot!! Wow!! Good point about the personal code of honour, however, I can only tell you what I witnessed for a time on the base, they came in every day for months looking for leftovers as they'd been on beans and rice for months. Some people are just braver than others you know, it's all down to different personalities really, some are pushy, get what they want and survive, and others don't. Thanks for the feedback.. :yes:
     
  14. Free Will

    Free Will Patron with Honors

    I think you've got to be a little more fair, Dart. You must admit that you and a few others had personal savings either from pre-S0 or pre-RPF bonuses. If you had all been dependent entirely on what your orgs paid for you, your RPF experiences would have been much worse. That would have been a good thing, IMO, as you'd have probably led a mutiny.
    When I was on the UK RPF in 77, another time it was large, we probably had more tech qualifications than were left in the org, we certainly had more WDAHs than all the other staff auditing in the area, and we had higher morale than the org. Even so, it was easiest for folk like Ira Chaleff, Jay Hurwitz and Richard Reiss who could draw on family bank accounts to buy clothes, food and tobacco even non-RPFed staff couldn't afford. So it's not just a matter of attitude as you imply. Just think: WHY was the Stonelands cook asking the RPF for sugar and butter?:coolwink:
     
  15. DartSmohen

    DartSmohen Silver Meritorious Patron

    Yes, there is possibly a modicum of truth in what you say. There were some reg bonuses saved up.

    As for the Stonelands cook; That was Robin Scott. We hoarded our supplies. In addition we had some expert "fingersmiths" like Tony Marsh who could (and would) "obtain" supplies whan we ran short.

    As Hubbard says; It is all about survival.:coolwink:
     
  16. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    He made great brownies. :)

    Paul
     
  17. johnAnchovie

    johnAnchovie Still raging

    Tony and Mick are there, you can see Tony, who I really like, in a CC london variety concert in November 2007 here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei1sOwnNXZQ

    Anyone recognize anyone else there?

    Mick Parkee was in the AO in 2006, I hope they are not still making poor Ilsa Pride go to work.

    If we had pics of the RPF UK people I could ID a lot of them.
     
  18. DartSmohen

    DartSmohen Silver Meritorious Patron

    Well, Britain has got talent, Scientology certainly has not!:roflmao:
     
  19. johnAnchovie

    johnAnchovie Still raging

    Srisly...

    :lol:

    Tony Phiipps would love this one too: :dancer:
     
  20. solo

    solo Patron with Honors

    AOSHUK Saint Hill RPF

    OK this was 6 or so years ago, anyone got any later info???

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    Operation Clambake Forum: Your story from inside Scientology: I broke
    into scientology world wide HQ last nite.
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    By Leyton Jay on Saturday, April 28, 2001 - 06:29 am:

    I live in Crawley, a town in the south east of england, VERY close to
    the world wide HQ of scientology in East Grinstead.

    Myself, my girlfriend and some mates went driving in the front door last
    nite.
    My friends are curious about the Co$. I know how dangerous they can be,
    and wanted to try and get useful information. We rolled in the front
    drive and parked in the small car park of the left, starring down the
    hill toward the main manor, there is a large set of steps leading down
    from the main manor.

    There were around 25-30 members all dressed in black standing equally
    spaced on the steps, in diagonal lines with no more than three members
    per level. They remained totally motionless, not conversing with each
    other or moving at all. On the bottom step their was another person, a
    man, much older, pacing back and forth, dressed entirely in white, he
    may have had white hair.

    We convinced my mate john, whom was driving, to roll down the drive and
    over to the steps, pretending to ask for directions. There was some
    confusion in the drive, halve of us wanted to leave and rest wanted to
    go in. We sat near the front gates for 15-20 seconds arguing about what
    was to happen. The head lights must have been visible at the manor,
    because when we convinced John to drive on, the dude wearing white had
    disappeared and the members in black were standing to attention even
    more than before.

    We rolled down the drive and went round the little round about near the
    steps so that I could talk throug the passneger side window. This was at
    about 1am 28th April 2001, by the way, just occured I haven't mentioned
    that yet.

    Anyway, I learned through the window and asked one of the closest
    members the way to East Grinstead, their was a pause, a long one, the
    entire group just stood motionless, starring at us, for about ten
    seconds. Before one lady, about 25-30 with dark hair stepped forward and
    tld us the way. Very polite, sounded wide awake, a local person
    probably, sounded like a german or swiss accent, I don't know for sure.
    The others just stood, looking at her rather than us. We drove off, and
    the person who'd spoke to us stepped back up to her postion.

    My friends told me that they've been here before and seen transit vans
    coming to collect people.

    We waited at a dark junction to a private lane, in view of the entrance
    for a while and saw another white transit leave shortly after. Mt
    friends have follwed it before, the van is loaded with people and isn't
    too new, it burnt off as fast as you can imagine. It must have been a
    diesel engine, it went like a fuck bullet! Last time three of my friends
    were in another (older) car and couldn't keep up with the van as it
    screamed round tight country lanes, hairpin bends, shicanes and narrow
    bridges. My friend was doing 80mph at least and couldn't keep up.

    But this time, they didn't know we were following, we held back and
    because john's car is quite nippy (even with five of us in it) we could
    catch up easily. We followed them for ages, miles, then we followed them
    into Crowborough, along Walshes road, turning right into a long lane
    with Walshes Manor at the end.

    Fucking dozens of white transits were parked up outside a large white
    house.
    The van we had been following had arrived only 3o seconds or so before
    us and already some members had got off, got their stuff and we half-way
    inside. Single file, not talking, wide awake! John couldn't see what was
    happening he was too busy driving, Warren, in the backseat, one of our
    less darring friends panics and screams at John to turn around, the rest
    of us were too mesmerized to complain, John thinks there an emergency
    and wheel-spins the car on the gravel track, reverse so fast he almost
    smashes into a gate and burn off out of the lane.

    This was at about 2:09am this morning.
    We will be going back, but does anyone know anything about what we've
    seen?

    Any suggestions?
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    By Cheryl Sola (Clamato) on Saturday, April 28, 2001 - 09:10 am:

    If they were dressed in black, they may be members of the Rehabilitation
    Project Force (RPF). RPF'ers are not allowed to speak to anyone.


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    Anyone up for this:?
     
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2008