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Discussion in 'Leaks - Emails, Promo, Insider Info' started by Megalomaniac, Nov 30, 2008.

  1. Megalomaniac

    Megalomaniac Silver Meritorious Patron

    I got this e-mail, but not the flyer. I interpreted "all the Davis old-timers" to include Martin Samuels. I'm guessing he didn't get the e-mail, though. :unsure:

    "newest Mission"? :confused2:

    "historical moment"? Well, ok, as long as we don't forget our earlier historical moments. :duh:

    Sorry, you don't know my name yet. :unsure:
  2. Tim Skog

    Tim Skog Silver Meritorious Patron

    :wow: With the promise of being a historical event who can refuse to go?
    :moon: ME FOR ONE!
  3. Good twin

    Good twin Floater

    Damn! They're even more arrogant than the original COSMODians.....:coolwink:
  4. Megalomaniac

    Megalomaniac Silver Meritorious Patron

    Oh no, I feel bad to have started the ridicule. :unsure:

    But, we shouldn't forget our history. And maybe Martin Samuels would like to attend. Why not? If he's still around, please let him know. I'll bet you a nickel, everyone who goes to the new COSMOD would love to hear his stories. No matter what they say, they would.

    Sooner or later I hope I can rise above the fear of the cornball SP declares, rise above the celebration of pointing out the corniness, and just communicate. :happydance:
  5. Good twin

    Good twin Floater

    ....and you have. Thank you for posting this, and you are right. I would have loved to hear Martin Samuels speak when I was still in. I would love to speak with him today as well. Meeting Alan Walters was wonderfully nostalgic. Would love to have a "reverse" mission holders conference. How cool would that be???:coolwink:
  6. Martini

    Martini Patron Meritorious

    The nostalgia concerning COSMOD is legion with some Scientologists. Stories of packed courserooms, vibrant enthusiasm and a spirit of play are often part of the description.

    Hundreds of students, packed in, drilling TRs on the introductory course was one tid-bit if I remember correctly.

    Seems impossible that could have ever existed now. Orgs are lucky if they get a few first starts in a week.
  7. Good twin

    Good twin Floater

    I remember being a mission staff member training at Flag. Just seeing the COSMOD staff was impressive. They were the best dressed and most upstat trainees. I was envious. It was 1976. :yes:
  8. exso72

    exso72 Patron

    I too originally came out of COSMOD and yes those were the days. The basic courseroom was always jam packed with hippyish UCD newbies doing their TRs 0-9 and there was a genuine enthusiasm that filled the place.

    Good times had by all... Till we started "de-dinging"... Oops. That sure brought the Int Finance Police over in a hurry to shut us down. :duh:
  9. xwc

    xwc Patron with Honors

    I came out of COSMOD in the early 70's, too. One of the things there was people had to work to get on staff ... PRD, HSDC and Life Repair to even be considered (and an interview with Marty). And the staff members all wanted to be on staff. It made a difference.

    And it was the only place I ever heard of that a reg would let a student take a "last acid trip" before starting his next action. I believe that would have been seen as reasonableness anywhere else.
  10. Martini

    Martini Patron Meritorious

    lol - was that Sherese, or maybe Susan?

    too funny :lol:

    how was the staff pay?
  11. xwc

    xwc Patron with Honors

    It was Susan. Never on staff there, but I think tech staff got paid OK. Comm Course Sups not so much (unless you compare to CL IV or SO)
  12. Megalomaniac

    Megalomaniac Silver Meritorious Patron

    Another E-mail

    I got another e-mail.

    "deep gratitude" to "all who helped"

    "Welcome"! to "people of Davis past"

    It couldn't be much clearer. Where's Martin Samuels?
  13. freet43

    freet43 Patron with Honors

    " To everyone who came from Davis, the torch has been re-lit!

    To all who helped, the staff of Church of Scientology Mission of Davis extend a heartfelt expression of deep gratitude.

    And to the people of Davis past, present and future, and anyone who has an interest in Davis, Scientology or Humanity, we say “Welcome”!

    Come and join the party!!!"

    So, for old times sake, we decided to take Steve up on this heartfelt invitation, and popped in to briefly check things out at about 2:30.

    It didn't look like much was happening. I'd guess there were about 20 people there. Since a presentation was about to start, and we weren't interested in hearing it, we were just turning to duck out, when someone called out my name and confronted me for "crashing the party".... Next security walked up to ask us to leave.

    Geesh. So much for the heartfelt appreciation and welcome.

    I'd guess Martin wouldn't have been welcome either...
  14. alex

    alex Gold Meritorious Patron

    So much for confront, ARC and communication as the universal solvent and such......

    And such a not-is of so much history....

    It is sad to see the church as an example of all it is not supposed to be...

    Thanks for the report. Hopefully their lack of confront and fear of communication will not be expressed subversively.

  15. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor

    Would be interesting if you got this on Video....
  16. Gus

    Gus Patron with Honors

    Oh, My, Fucking, God. What a JOKE! Taking credit for the work done by somebody they declared "suppressive!" Why don't you invite Martin back, jerk?

    No, one day a little-dicked dictator asshole named David Miscavige came and fucked it all up.

    What a blithering idiot.

  17. hummingbird

    hummingbird Patron with Honors

    Yeah, and some are in Northern California, working at software companies, and hoping someday to forget their foolishness in being dragged into a cult.

    :ohmy:There are so many things wrong with that statement, I don't know where to begin... From what to what, exactly? There have been earthquakes, floodings, genocides, nuclear reactor meltdowns, wars... Uh, thanks?

    So, it's been nearly two years now. How's it going, COSMOD?
  18. honu

    honu Patron

    The infamous de-dinging!
  19. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    Kingley Wimbush.
  20. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    De-dinging was based on, and inspired by, Hubbard's idea of "de-PTSing." IIRC, this was an action in the newly released (or not quite yet formally released) Key to Life course. Wimbush thought he was being "on Source," and using the latest "LRH tech" - with a wee bit of improvisation.

    He ended up becoming a scapegoat, and being used as part of the justification for Hubbard's looting of the Missions.

    After he was out of Scientology I talked with him, and he admitted that he had come to realize that the person to whom Scientologists were "PTS," and from whom the "dinging" originated, was Hubbard.