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Curiosus: Scientology Statistics OT VI, VII, VIII completion lists from 1982 to 2012

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  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    EDITORIAL NOTE: The blog of Curiosus is highly recommended.

    Scientology Statistics - OT VI, VII, VIII completion lists from 1982 to 2012
    http://curiosus-scn.blogspot.fr/2012/08/scientology-statistics-ot-6-7-8.html
     
  2. programmer_guy

    programmer_guy True Ex-Scientologist

    Re: Curiosus: Scientology Statistics OT VI, VII, VIII completion lists from 1982 to

    As was mentioned:

    I wonder how accurate these are. (Although this provides some general idea.)
    It would be difficult to assess how many multiple attests to the same level occurred.
     
  3. Student of Trinity

    Student of Trinity Silver Meritorious Patron

    Re: Curiosus: Scientology Statistics OT VI, VII, VIII completion lists from 1982 to

    This is very interesting, but even apart from the major issue of accuracy of the data, I think there's an interpretation issue. Namely, a time delay.

    It takes a while to get up the 'Bridge' as far as OT6, to even get onto this graph. And people can fall off the 'Bridge' at any time, for various reasons. So if for example there's a surge of late OT's starting in 2001, this could be because there was a surge of new public getting started at the beginning at some much earlier point. 2001 would just be the time when the remnants of that surge of beginners all reached OT6. But I suppose it could also be that in 2001 there was for some reason a big pile of people stuck on OT5, who had been there for ages, and in 2001 something suddenly got unstuck, and a wave moved on to OT6.

    There are even more possibilities, it seems to me, for explaining declines. If what this chart shows was real, and not just an artifact of bad data, then there was an enormous crash in upper OTs in the early 1990's. This could be because there was a terrific crash in beginner numbers some years before, or because a lot of people all got tired of endless solo auditing and quit, or just because there had been a wave of suddenly unstuck OTs a few years before, and they all got through and then that wave was gone, and the new low level was the new normal.

    In other words, we shouldn't try to interpret graphs like this using Hubbard-think, where whatever looks good on Thursday at 2 pm must be the real story. Statistics are the beginning of some kinds of wisdom, not the end.

    (Hubbard's vaunted analysis tools, his administration by statistics and his 'Data Series', are incredibly crude. They're like trying to fix a complex machine with a mallet, because you've heard that great results can be gained with a strange tool called a torque wrench, which exerts force. Yes, statistics and logical analysis can be tremendously useful; but only if they're really done right, and doing them right is a hell of a lot harder than Hubbard made them out to be.)
     
  4. PirateAndBum

    PirateAndBum Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Curiosus: Scientology Statistics OT VI, VII, VIII completion lists from 1982 to

    Inspector General Network Bulletin Number 39, entitled “Your Progress to OT (Arbitraries Cancelled)” Dated 6 June 1999

    This was GAT for OTs

    All prior OT 7 and 8 completions had to redo OT 6 & go back and do more Solo NOTs at this point which is why you see the jump in the following few years.

    Interesting how the completions jumped when OT 8 was released, how convenient for them to have so many comps to feed to the ExpensiveWinds.