DEATH. What's your personal notion?

[Leon]

Can objectives be overrun?

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Anything can be overrun if the person considers it is overrun.

On the other hand a person can continue doing anything for ever if he considers he can.

 

[Vinaire]

Anything can be overrun if the person considers it is overrun.

On the other hand a person can continue doing anything for ever if he considers he can.

I remember reading somewhere that overrun is a type of protest.

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[gomorrhan]

Yes, essentially, for me, overrun is "wrong item", as the item is no longer there, or no longer mine, and so I protest running something that I no longer have interest in.

 

[Leon]

I remember reading somewhere that overrun is a type of protest.

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I had C/S Series 37 run on me way back. I think it has been superceded by something or other. Anyway, since then I have been pretty much unoverrunable. there's always more to it.

 

[Alan]

My attempt at objectives was fairly short. At one point I was suddenly uptone and giggly, feeling "stupid/foolish" like I was playing a kids' game, and from there I just went further and further downtone until I was just following orders like a robot.

You probably went exterior - your auditor was more than likely an innie!

Objective processes can very easily cause one to become bigger than their body and bigger than their operating box and environment - thus to go exterior from ones body - it is an Ascension Experience.

I re-designed the Objectives so that you could do them whilst exterior - this allows the being to begin to operate their intentions and perceptions in PT and at the same time maintain their presence and biggness - it also erases the protest of being stuck in your body.

A simple: How big are you? - Where are you? What happened? Would have rehabed and stabilized the state.

Alan

 

[beyond_horizons]

Yes, essentially, for me, overrun is "wrong item", as the item is no longer there, or no longer mine, and so I protest running something that I no longer have interest in.

WISI, The Universe detests a vacuum.

If you have or had your ‘cognitions’ inside the scientologist environment, then as stuff blows the vacuum created will leave room for much of hubbo's insanity and nebulous definitions to creep in and fill the void. The lingo may not make sense. Objectives can collapse the state.

If you have your realizations in your life environment in line with your own goals, you will grow and expand towards those goals objectively.

 

[gomorrhan]

I've heard this sort of argument before. I had lots of cognitions while I was in the Church. They led me out of the Church.

I don't think it's true that one absorbs Hubbard's ideas because one has discarded one of one's own. I certainly didn't. I did accept many of his ideas, because I considered them true, but not because I just needed an idea, because some stable datum of mine had been 'as-ised'. I still accept those ideas, although I rejected many others.

A person's mind is not a vacuum. The analogy doesn't work, for me.

 

[Bea Kiddo]

I believe that anything can be run forever. And anything can be overrun too. Its a matter of the state of mind of the pc.

There are always new levels of understanding to be gained by reviewing information already covered before.

Not saying jack about auditing. I am talking about in life.

 

[Nec_V20]

DEATH. What's your personal notion?

Personally I think you probably get used to it after a few minutes.

 

[Nec_V20]

beyond_horizons,

here's an interesting thought on what you alluded to in your post above:

Is Hell Exothermic or Endothermic?
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First, We postulate that if souls exist, then they must have some mass. If they do, then a mole of souls can also have a mass. So, at what rate are souls moving into hell and at what rate are souls leaving? I think we can safely assume that once a soul gets to hell, it will not leave.

Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for souls entering hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, then you will go to hell. Since there are more than one of these religions and people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and souls go to hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in hell to increase exponentially.

Now, we look at the rate of change in volume in hell. Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in hell to stay the same, the ratio of the mass of souls and volume needs to stay constant. Two options exist:

1. If hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, then the temperature and pressure in hell will increase until all hell breaks loose.

2. If hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until hell freezes over.

So which is it? If we accept the quote given to me by Theresa Manyan during Freshman year, "that it will be a cold night in hell before I sleep with you" and take into account the fact that I still have NOT succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then Option 2 cannot be true...Thus, hell is exothermic.

 

[Dulloldfart]

here's an interesting thought on what you alluded to in your post above:

I prefer the version that ends:

If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa
during my Freshman year that, "it will be a cold day
in Hell before I sleep with you, and take into account
the fact that I slept with her last night, then number
two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is
exothermic and has already frozen over.
The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has
frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any
more souls and is therefore, extinct...leaving only
Heaven thereby proving the existence of a divine being
which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting
"Oh my God."

Paul

 

[Nec_V20]

DullOldFart,

I prefer the version that ends:

I didn't want to attribute the quote, because I am not sure whether it is apocryphal or genuine. As you have stated, there are a few different versions of it out there.

Still I found it interesting.

Here is another one which is topical:

Santa has a huge market: there are 2,106 million children aged under eighteen in the world, according to the United Nations Children’s Fund UNICEF. Given the pagan origins of the festival and the emphasis on charity, we can assume that Santa will deliver presents to each and every child and not just Christian children or the 191 million who live in industrialized countries.

Assume there are 2.5 children per house. That means Santa has to make 842 million stops on Christmas Eve. Now let’s say these homes are spread equally across the landmasses of the planet. The Earth’s surface area is, given a radius of 6,400km(3,986 miles), 510,000,000 sq km (196,600,000 sq miles), calculated as radius squared, multiplied by 4 pi. Only 29 per cent of the surface of the planet is land, so this narrows the populated area to 150,000,000 sq km (57,9000,000 sq miles). Each household therefore occupies an area of 0.178 sq km (0.069 sq miles). Let’s assume that each home occupies the same sized plot, so the distance between each household is the square root of the area, which is 0.42 km (0.26 miles).

Every Christmas Eve, Santa has to travel a distance equivalent to the number of chimneys - 842 million - multiplied by this average spacing between households, which works out to be 365 million km (221 million miles). This sounds daunting, particularly given that he must cover this distance in a single night. Fortunately, Santa has more than twenty-four hours in which to deliver the presents. Consider the first point on the planet to go through the International Date Line at midnight on 24 December. From this moment on, Santa can pop down chimneys. If he stays right there, he will have twenty-four hours to deliver presents to everyone along the date line. But he can do better than this, by traveling backwards, against the direction of rotation of the Earth. That way he can deliver presents for almost twenty-four hours to everywhere else on Earth, making forty-eight hours in all, which is 2,880 minutes or 172,800 seconds.

From this, one can calculate that Santa has little over two ten-thousandths of a second to get between each of the 842 million households. To cover the total distance of 356 million km (221 million miles) in this time means that his sleigh is moving at an average of 2,060 km (1,279 miles) per second. Ignoring quibbles about air temperature and humidity, the speed of sound is something like 1,200 km (750 miles) per hour, or 0.3 km (0.2 miles) per second, so Santa is achieving speeds of around 6,395 times the speed of sound, or Mach 6395.

When a sleigh, or indeed any object, exceeds the speed of sound, there will be at least one sonic boom. This is a shock wave sent out when the sleigh catches up with pressure waves it generates while moving, explains Nigel Weatherill of the University of Wales, Swansea, who helped the Thrust Supersonic Car break the sound barrier in 1997.

Santa, however, does not generate any sonic booms on Christmas Eve. In his book, “Unweaving the Rainbow”, Richard Dawkins says he has used this fact to disprove the existence of Santa to a six-year-old child. To a biologist this may indeed seem persuasive but, to an aerodynamics engineer, it suggests that Santa has found a way to suppress sonic booms. For example, says Nigel Weatherill, perhaps Santa cancels the peaks and troughs in the shock wave with troughs and peaks of ‘antisound’ generated by a specialized speaker on his sleigh.

The speed of light is absolute and cannot be exceeded, so we should check that Santa is not breaking cosmic law. The usual figure for the speed of light is 300 million meters per second (984 million feet) which, given that there are 1,000 metres per kilometre (5,280 feet per mile), works out to be 300,000 km (186,000 miles) per second. Santa is comfortably within this limit, travelling at around one-145th of the speed of light - too slow to worry about the implications of Einstein’s theory of relativity. This assumes, however, that Santa throws the presents down the chimney while passing overhead. In fact, he stops at each house so that he has to achieve double the speed calculated above (form a standing start, he has to travel the distance between each house in two-10,000ths of a second). That means going from 0 to 4,116 km (2,558 miles) per second in two-10,000ths of a second, an acceleration of 20.5 million kilometres (12.79 million miles) per second per second, or 20.5 billion metres (67.3 billion feet) per second per second.

The acceleration due to gravity is a mere 9.8 metres (32ft) per second per second, so the acceleration of Santa’s sleigh is equivalent to about two billion times that caused by the gravitational tug of the Earth. Given that Santa is excessively overweight, say around 200kg (30 stone), the force he will feel is his mass times his acceleration: around 4,000 billion newtons. Even fighter pilots can’t cope with accelerations more than a few times that of gravity: they have to use special breathing and so called g-suits to keep the blood in their head. Santa would have to cope with around 2 billion times this acceleration. As the physics professor Lawrence Krauss put it, that would reduce our fat friend to ‘chunky salsa’.

Krauss has considered similar problems in his work on the physics of Star Trek. The starship Enterprise gets by with devices called ‘inertial dampers’ to cushion the forces that Captain Kirk feels in the seat of his pants. Santa has to resort to similar tactics, creating an artificial world within his sleigh in which the reaction force that responds to the accelerating force is cancelled, perhaps by some kind of gravitational field.

There is one other problem Santa has to contend with: His cargo of toys. Assuming that each of the 2,106 million children gets nothing more than a medium -sized construction set (900g or 2lb), he has a load of 1,895 million kg (4212 million lb) to convey. Then there is also his supply of fuel to achieve these huge speeds.

Any way you look at it, Santa has some serious hurdles to overcome.

 

[beyond_horizons]

So which is it? If we accept the quote given to me by Theresa Manyan during Freshman year, "that it will be a cold night in hell before I sleep with you" and take into account the fact that I still have NOT succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then Option 2 cannot be true...Thus, hell is exothermic.

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My first wife, my high school sweetheart was hot! Tantra hot. The sex was phenomenal. At 13 through 18 we couldn’t get enough of each other. It was heaven.

At 18 we got married. That’s when hell froze over.

 

[Nec_V20]

beyond_horizons,

thus you came to learn the four stages of marriage:

Tri Weekly
Try Weekly
Try Weakly
Try Beer

 

[Alan]

There is one other problem Santa has to contend with: His cargo of toys. Assuming that each of the 2,106 million children gets nothing more than a medium -sized construction set (900g or 2lb), he has a load of 1,895 million kg (4212 million lb) to convey. Then there is also his supply of fuel to achieve these huge speeds.

Any way you look at it, Santa has some serious hurdles to overcome.

This post is obviously from an anti Santa Cult - It does not shake my belief in Santa!

 

[Nec_V20]

Alan,

this is the song for you then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOhuQOVq7sM

 

[Alan]

Alan,

this is the song for you then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOhuQOVq7sM

Ah! Thats more like it Nec! - the true christmas spirit!

 

[gomorrhan]

I learned the hard way about marriage. If the girl is already fucking you, marrying her is fucking DUMB.

If she's not fucking you, perhaps marriage might change things. Then again, there are other women that don't require a contract to fuck you, and I think that's a better plan.

 

[Leon]

Two first dynamics fucking does not make a second dynamic.

 

[gomorrhan]

Nor does a ring.