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Devolution of the Ex Scientologist to Anti - Ex Scientologist

Discussion in 'Evaluating and Criticising Scientology' started by Out Effix, Sep 23, 2019.

  1. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

    And OSA has many ways to secretly recompense people who go along
    to get along and do its bidding behind the scenes.​

    Cold cash . . . .​
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    Collector cars perhaps . . . .​

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    Nice Corvette!​
    Just two options I can think of. :shrug:
     
  2. Out Effix

    Out Effix Out Ethics Ex Ethics Officer

    Back to the subject of mind control and Scientology. Here is a great post from Big Blue about Scientology and how it works:

    Most people when thinking of membership in a religion do not associate it with the deliberate creation of a body of documentation that protects the religion from litigation. I think the first thing they have people do now is after watching an introductory video about Scientology they sign something saying they understand and agree Scientology is a religion. Scientologists proceed to sign similar and progressively stricter agreements and waivers when they start another service or start services at another org. Each org is set up as a separate corporation. Scientologists sign NDAs and bonds both as public and staff. With each service completion Scientologists write up "wins" saying how great it was which can be used to counter a later change of position. So being a Scientologist is literally a contractual relationship.
 

    
Scientology is a full immersion milieu environment where things like language, associates and time become dedicated to Scientology to the exclusion of other things.

    
Scientologists are indoctrinated into KSW which is by definition fundamentalism. They believe that it is their only path to spiritual freedom and if they cross Scientology they will be condemned to not remembering past lives or not being able to control reincarnation for eternity. 

    It is difficult to find Scientology policy. KSW is their most senior (public) policy but if you run a Google image search for it it is extremely difficult to find in it's entirety. By all rights they should be handing it out like The Way To Happiness booklets but they seem to be embarrassed to reveal policies that every public Scientologists should have access to.
    
Scientologists lie (tell an acceptable truth) and obfuscate to protect the organization and other Scientologists. It is policy that Scientologists cannot sue or report other Scientologists to non-Scientology authorities. They must go through internal procedures. This makes it difficult to find reliable witnesses.

    
There are a lot of coercive and manipulative techniques embedded in Scientology. If you cross them they declare you a Suppressive Person and everyone must disconnect from you. The internal judicial procedures are harsh, arbitrary and based on a lot of woo. Their Fair Game policy is essentially gang stalking. Scientologists give them a lot of personal and embarrassing or even incriminating information in auditing and security check sessions and staff life history questionnaires. This can be used against them.
    

There is a lot of internal compartmentalization of information, censorship, misinformation, redirection and shifting of blame. They use confidential special projects to conduct operations outside of normal organizational lines. Different strata and experience levels don’t know what the other is doing and don’t see or know about actionable crimes.

    
Scientology is an asset stripping operation which depletes resources needed to conduct a protracted lawsuit. People leaving staff may have neglected medical needs and their priority is to simply survive and get reestablished in the outside world.
    Scientology cuts short or completely replaces outside education. Education is a factor in deciding to take action or upon a legal strategy.
    
Scientology has developed legal strategies to weaponize the legal system and operate without good faith.

    
Scientology safe points or co-opts local law enforcement and agencies by giving them donations, having them participate in events, placing their people on committees and other PR efforts.

    
Public awareness of Scientology as a cult and it’s abuses has increased significantly in the last 10 - 15 years. Hubbard said that the complexity of Scientology served as a kind of defense and he was right. For anyone who has tried to explain it to a non-Scientologist it is extremely difficult and gets into the weeds quickly and public awareness and support for issues is a factor in litigation.

    
Scientology uses religious cloaking. The IRS has given them tax exempt status and they can claim First Amendment protection. They form alliances with religious groups and co-opt other group’s agendas to lobby in support of legislation that protects them or opposes national and international restrictions.

    
In other words it is more like a mafia than a church except as far as government agencies are concerned it is a piker compared to other mafias and government agencies have a very poor track record of dealing with larger more violent mafias as it is. The thing that sets Scientology apart from other mafias is it developed an effective program to operate in the open regardless of the "rules and processes which govern how a democratic society deals with this type of activity."
     
  3. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    :thumbsup:
     
  4. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    It was just made into a thread so it wouldn't be lost:

    Brilliant description of Scn Inc. | Ex Scientologist Message Board
     
  5. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    The old "Truth Seeker" from A.R.S. days would be proud of you.

    You have his M.O. down pat.
     
  6. Out Effix

    Out Effix Out Ethics Ex Ethics Officer

    Worth repeating.

    Back to the subject of mind control and Scientology. Here is a great post from Big Blue about Scientology and how it works:
    Most people when thinking of membership in a religion do not associate it with the deliberate creation of a body of documentation that protects the religion from litigation. I think the first thing they have people do now is after watching an introductory video about Scientology they sign something saying they understand and agree Scientology is a religion. Scientologists proceed to sign similar and progressively stricter agreements and waivers when they start another service or start services at another org. Each org is set up as a separate corporation. Scientologists sign NDAs and bonds both as public and staff. With each service completion Scientologists write up "wins" saying how great it was which can be used to counter a later change of position. So being a Scientologist is literally a contractual relationship.
 

    
Scientology is a full immersion milieu environment where things like language, associates and time become dedicated to Scientology to the exclusion of other things.

    
Scientologists are indoctrinated into KSW which is by definition fundamentalism. They believe that it is their only path to spiritual freedom and if they cross Scientology they will be condemned to not remembering past lives or not being able to control reincarnation for eternity. 

    It is difficult to find Scientology policy. KSW is their most senior (public) policy but if you run a Google image search for it it is extremely difficult to find in it's entirety. By all rights they should be handing it out like The Way To Happiness booklets but they seem to be embarrassed to reveal policies that every public Scientologists should have access to.
    
Scientologists lie (tell an acceptable truth) and obfuscate to protect the organization and other Scientologists. It is policy that Scientologists cannot sue or report other Scientologists to non-Scientology authorities. They must go through internal procedures. This makes it difficult to find reliable witnesses.

    
There are a lot of coercive and manipulative techniques embedded in Scientology. If you cross them they declare you a Suppressive Person and everyone must disconnect from you. The internal judicial procedures are harsh, arbitrary and based on a lot of woo. Their Fair Game policy is essentially gang stalking. Scientologists give them a lot of personal and embarrassing or even incriminating information in auditing and security check sessions and staff life history questionnaires. This can be used against them.
    

There is a lot of internal compartmentalization of information, censorship, misinformation, redirection and shifting of blame. They use confidential special projects to conduct operations outside of normal organizational lines. Different strata and experience levels don’t know what the other is doing and don’t see or know about actionable crimes.

    
Scientology is an asset stripping operation which depletes resources needed to conduct a protracted lawsuit. People leaving staff may have neglected medical needs and their priority is to simply survive and get reestablished in the outside world.
    Scientology cuts short or completely replaces outside education. Education is a factor in deciding to take action or upon a legal strategy.
    
Scientology has developed legal strategies to weaponize the legal system and operate without good faith.

    
Scientology safe points or co-opts local law enforcement and agencies by giving them donations, having them participate in events, placing their people on committees and other PR efforts.

    
Public awareness of Scientology as a cult and it’s abuses has increased significantly in the last 10 - 15 years. Hubbard said that the complexity of Scientology served as a kind of defense and he was right. For anyone who has tried to explain it to a non-Scientologist it is extremely difficult and gets into the weeds quickly and public awareness and support for issues is a factor in litigation.

    
Scientology uses religious cloaking. The IRS has given them tax exempt status and they can claim First Amendment protection. They form alliances with religious groups and co-opt other group’s agendas to lobby in support of legislation that protects them or opposes national and international restrictions.

    
In other words it is more like a mafia than a church except as far as government agencies are concerned it is a piker compared to other mafias and government agencies have a very poor track record of dealing with larger more violent mafias as it is. The thing that sets Scientology apart from other mafias is it developed an effective program to operate in the open regardless of the "rules and processes which govern how a democratic society deals with this type of activity."
     
  7. Out Effix

    Out Effix Out Ethics Ex Ethics Officer

    Yes Sir, Thank you. I have it in my DNA. I am here to get ethics ruthlessly in at the Ex Scientology Message Board :D
     
  8. He-man

    He-man Hero extraordinary

    Yeah good luck with that. You got one week.

    May the force be with you. Always.

    :tobed:
     
  9. Out Effix

    Out Effix Out Ethics Ex Ethics Officer

  10. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    Out Ethics reeeeeaaallly likes Jeffrey Augustine. You even post the same way. Use the same expressions. The same use of not-quite-right scientologese at times. Is he writing your posts for you? Or are you just hoping to be just like him? Are you interning under him? I've watched Jeffrey for 15 years. I can smell him, and you stink of him.

    You keep repeating yourself and posting the same post over and over. It's like a copy & paste error.

    Or are you just huffing and puffing on your little theta hamster wheel hoping to make it to operating staten before Monday next week?
     
    UTR likes this.
  11. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    Really? So she's two-timing Alanzo then? :biggrin:
     
  12. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    Ssshhhhh......He doesn't know about the He-man thrust yet.
     
  13. He-man

    He-man Hero extraordinary

    Seriously. Gimme a break you guys. I'm swedish. I might speak English fluently butt thrust and whitch are still hard for me.
     
  14. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    Jesus Emma, what's going on here? You told me I was the only one ...
     
  15. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    I'm not saying anything about this.
     
  16. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    Life just got really complicated.
     
  17. He-man

    He-man Hero extraordinary

    We can discuss it back channels.
     
  18. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    This is headed back to fisting...isn't it.
     
  19. He-man

    He-man Hero extraordinary

    Nope! Uh. Uh! Not going there again!
     
  20. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    @Out Ethics Has 264 posts. 78 mention Alanzo. That's 29.5% of his posts. LOL. Fixated much?

    Edit: My mistake, it's 93 mentions. That's 35.2%

    On further inspection, since Out Ethics returned in September 2019 after an absence of 9 months, he has posted 117 times and 91 of them have been about Alanzo. That's 78.6%. Yup fixated.
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2019