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Donations to the Ideal Org San Diago...Unbelievable!

bobthesp

Patron with Honors
Michelle (Wisendone) got this in her email.

:omg: Can you believe all the money people have given to them?!

One couple gave $5,000,000!!!

What a complete waste of money!

Dean

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San Diego Building Fundraising Project
Honor Roll

NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDERS PLATINUM MERITORIOUS $7,500,000

NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDERS MERITORIOUS $5,000,000
Kurt & Jenny Listug

NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDERS WITH HONORS $2,500,000

NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDER $1,000,000
Ed & Kathy Marsh

PLATINUM HUMANITARIAN $750,000

GOLD HUMANITARIAN $500,000
Andrew & Dani Duggan Dave & Denise Meyer

SILVER HUMANITARIAN $250,000

HUMANITARIAN WITH HONORS $150,000
Mike, Carol & Enzo Bertolino · Armida Fernandez ·
Phil & Mitzi Bergman
Steve, Valerie, Julian & Tiffany Margo · John & Judy Scheuer ·
Gary & Gail Hill
Henry Einhorn & Wendy Farland ·
Ben, Wendy, Sam, Adam & Alissa Ghiora

HUMANITARIAN $100,000
Craig & Sally Jensen · Siofra Nugent · Dan & Sunie Worrells
Pete Kendall, Gayle & Dante Maggi · Derek & Jennifer Geer

PREMIER BENEFACTOR $50,000
Terry Sullivan · Ray & Sue Garrett · Juan & Sarah Arias · Dan Wittemann & Diana Witt Danny & Gerri Fischman · The Gerson Family · Monica Granados
Randy & Julianne Fulton · Patrick & Susan Javidan · Jorge Sarmiento

BENEFACTOR $35,000
Bob & Pat Pierce and Barbara Hedquist · Dave Lambert & Christine Craighead
Tom Diller · Ken & Ann Cigainero · Bill & Nancy Harte · Billy, Terry & Kat Nichols Margee McCormick · Barney Hill · Tasha Booth, Ruben Spencer & Naya Gardner

VANGUARD WITH HONORS $20,000
David & Lisi Arana · Mark Speros · Harley & Sandy Orion· Angelo, Gerri & Nick Petruolo
Ken & Ann Cigainero · Roy & Carry Bridgham · Janna Schwenn · Raul Arias
Jeff & Beth Ribera · Lisa Pezzella · Jason & Sandi Kleiman · Mace & Jennifer Richter · Kelli Abate
Josephine Lewis · L. David White · Nigel Hoyt, Kenya Smythe & Jet Arranz

VANGUARD CLUB $10,000
Jane Bixler · Delphi Academy · Trina Matthews · Melissa McCracken · Steve Giesing
Bob & Trish Duggan · Robert Cruz · David Newhouse & Diane Klein · Russ & Dolores Condon
Ray & DonaLee Dittenhoefer · Ed Sanko· Bella Gohstat · Jason Park · Roy & Carry Bridgham
Anne Geiberger · Joey Gatton · Gerardo Ramirez · Frani Borchers · Rune Winn
San Diego OT Committee · Rick Reynolds · Will Ferguson · Joan Palazzo· Bill Parrigin

ALUMNI $5,000
The Ling Family · Casey Ott · Zvi Bieringer · Jay Kromschroeder & Cinda Dettner
Greg & Janet Deering · Galit Kalma · Jonathan Caceres · Margarita Canseco
Jerry & Debbie McNeely · Joe Scheuer · Jeff Pritchard · Alan & Cyndi Bennett · Liz McGirk
Pam Hubbert · Randy Kilpatrick · Jeff McGinnis · Hayden Gerson · Grant & Elena Cardone
Albert & Cecilia Andrade · John Glass · Craig Clemence · Jason Franco · Larry White
Al, Diego & Samantha Ramirez ·Charles Kefover ·Uli & Mary Sommer · Lynette Hall
Rosie McNair · Nati Romero-Ruiz · Bill Hamel · Ryan Igo & Megan Maloy · Sally Zehnal
Ray Hutchinson & Kristina Gibbons · Shauna, Judy & Bill McDaniel · Juan Arranz · Erin Glenski
John, Valena & Isaac Arana · Angelica Gonzalez · Roberto Ley Chin · Montana Duggan
Molly & Sheryl Seaver and Anthony Kayser · Mike Stephenson · Frank & Michelle Lueke
Michael Budnick · Ray & Pam Barton · Joanne Krause

CONTRIBUTORS $1,000
Brian Debenedictis · Ann Tillman · Sandi Hoskins · John Hillman · Marilyn Gill · Rhett Bullen
Jimmy Bennett · Kena Curran · Dan Rust · Carlos & Sabrina Gonzalez · Simon & Jenny Baker
Lou Gonzales· Robert Baird · Gabi Ruiz · Armando & Sandra Ibarra · Matt Feschbach
Charlie & Jennifer Mokaio · Lia Montiglio · Chris Pratt · Robin Clarke · Holly Elzea
Mike & Barbara Simington · Carl Jardine · Al, Leslie & Brandie Hanning · H&H Book Services
Stan Gerson · Mark Hopps · Chris Perri & Cory Schwartzschild · Jim & Lorenda Ballard
Myron Wszelaki · Bruce Hardin · Phil Arana · Jan Fiala · Murray & Exilda Pearlman
Raul & Brenda Arias · Melissa Pennington · Dave Purkey · Doug Miller · Jeff Siebrand
Pablo & Fanny Arias · Cheryl Lebeda · Joshua Hartman · Meredith Santos · Fran Watson
Suzanne Pena · Sharon Hinckley · Paul & Abril Switzer · John Bryant · Volunteer Ministers of San Diego Pat Balvin · Ryk Williams · Richard Engel· Cindy Sears · Joe Boyle · Patti Bonchek
Jesse & Dina Bergman · Todd & Rosie Kugler · Teresa Bernard · Ron Aleger & Tamara Bonafede
Twin Cities OT Committee · Martin Alfaro-Franchi · Sonja Lawrence · Tere Gingerella · Elsie Harte
Tom Hall · Bob Black· Peggy Oppenheim · Margaret Nunez


SUPPORTERS $500
Steve Peralta & Yenny Badillo · Janis Claunch · David Cassaboom · Paul Huth · Theresa Young Margaret Meyer · Michelle Hillyer · Michelle Black · Rebecca Mullin · Melinda Bennett · Reed Davis
Paul Shoden · Elva Baker · Gypsey Miller · Stan & Sandy Chapman · Jamy Rogers
Speedy Goncalves · Philip Green · Carroll Allman · Scott Rhoads · Chula Vista Mission
Thomas Gatton · Larry & Eve Hanson · Neal & Naomi Fox · Arthur McCormack
John & Barbara Carmichael · Bill Rhodes · Ron Feinman · Mark Urtado · Doug Rogers
Lena Nasiri Fine · Bob & Gayle Carroll · Michael Brucken · David Badtorff · Mike & Abby Juneau Anastasia Heil · Rita Gray · Beatriz Grazida · Tina Fries-Miller · Todd Francis · Jeffrey Fox
Irving Fine · Karen Howard

FRIENDS $1-$499
Arlo Ihrig · Amanda Day · Ramon Garcia-Ortiz · Tom Atkinson · Leland Seides · Don Tompkins
Steve Collins · Jill Rappaport · Anton Anderson · Brian Campbell · Rolando Hernandez
Sophia Switzer · Alejandra Ruiz · Thomas Gatton, Sr. · Sergio Ruiz · Ellan Porter
Seth & Megan Webber · Mike & Joyce Cook · Mark Schwartz · Matthew Marsh
Robert & Dana Jackson · Arturo Martinez · Patrick Clouden · David & Andrea Kluge · Linda Aldrete Lewis & Trish Bass Thomas Fay · Johanna Hill · Doug Parent · Jeff & Tina Pearlman · Alison Williams Ryan Griffin Kathy Kasar · Jamie Deering · Jason Madrigal · Georgia Margo · Lucy Howell
Jessica Porter · Martin Trevino ·Caty Konigsberg · Arias Magic Pens · Penny Hamel · Jayde Ireland Lingna Li David Libs · Clement Ojugo · David Speros · Uwe Springborn · Storm Maker Productions
Richard White · Steve Koochin · Chris MorrissettE · Thaigo Da Silva · Ajay Aiyar · Terry Hobbs
Lee Geer · Jim Kalergis · Megan Costa · Mariana Cisneros · Aurum Caffin
David Stephens · Paul Nolan · Diane Purkey · Sandra Raygoza · Kevin Buchmueller · Zachary Miller Laurie Webster · Aspen Lamotte · David Kraybill · Jorge Smythe · Jesus Ibarra · A. Rodrogo
Diego Rafael Cisneros · Jennifer Gerson · April Ibarra · Ricardo Romero-Ruiz ·Bettel Ross Blumer Janet Beck · Jeff Abren · Rhonda Adi David Ashton · Luis Augedas · Adrian Austin
Ralph Blackstone · Borchers/Gatton/Nugent Field Group · Gina Bratkowski · Phillida Cheminais
Herb Crosthwaite · Alexxes Crouse · Doug Dohring · Jason Dohring · Wyatt Duggan Nancy Edwards Paul Falgren · Ron Faltinsky · Andie Fish · Nick Flabi · Terry Garcia · Jesse Hitt · Pavel Fulop
Peggy Howard · Infinity Link · W. Alexander Jimenez · David Kamp · Andrea Kenshole · Bernie Kirsh Corina Klepper Sue Lazar · Carl Lippert · Tony Lonstein · Kim Mantis · Eda Ela Martinez
Pam Moniz · Alfredo Moreno · Spyro Morfopoulos · Karen Moser · Alberto Nicolas · Jerry Howard David Noel · Dan O'Shea · James Ozhuthual · William Pollack · Ray Redfern · Marco Reyes
Silvia Ruiz · Ulla Scharboe-Peders · Laurel Schroeder · Sarah Siebrand · Frank Suarez Sandor Szaniszlow · Holleigh Taufer · Denis Tremblay · Erin Wiedner · Jeff Wilson · Matt Buse · Briar Fulton Betzy Barrigin · Arcella Cuevas · Barbara Dakin · Derrick Wilson · Abraham Nunez · Crystal Ayers ·Niceforo Galindo · Mark Maestas · Cyd Gerson · Robert Guzzo · Andrew Lloyd Green
William Hock · Brian Klink · Jono Koel · Norma Mora · Charlotte Cook · Brian Bowers
Wolfgang Tamowski · Lucretia Chavoya · Luca Arias · Christi Bennett · David Bozek · Steve Byrum Lisa Cullen · Ed Davis · Mary Elquindy · Alejandra Encinas · Emanuel Equila · Roberta Forde
Harry Frisch · Connie Harris · Elena Justice · Roy McClish · Keith Meyer Susan Michlin
My Career Consultants · Jesus Nunez · Robert Pace · Tony Pellicci · Kim Purcharski
Darlene Reynolds · Mike Rosenblatt Gabriel Ruiz · Michael Smith Erin Solari · Mike Stewart
Chel Stith · Angela Warmand · Wayne Wood · Damien Stolarz · Kelly Taylor · Dr. Bob Willinsky
Ben Zarai · Maria Zubovich · Farrah Pirahanchi · Carlos Beal · Ernie Minor Lucy Quigley
Jillian Schlessinger · Greg Speros · Maricela Cisneros · John Spagnola Jessica Hopper · Bill Booth Cristian Echeverria · Jose Cisneros · Carlos Hernandez · Pat Wagner · Jonathan Werdenberg
Silvia Alvarado · Anne Dunez · Loraine Baritz · Karla Bartholomew · Barbara Bartolon · Halli Bovia Jonni Brannon · Paul Coltman · Janice Cooper · Patty Corday Pierre Counoyer · Liza Dalyot
Cheryl Didear-Loomis · Farah Egli · Kannon Feshbach John Franco · Ralf Gerhardt · Paul Glenski Keith Gorman · Dorothyann Harvey · Marian Henry · Maria Hernandezm Gillian Hollander
JC Hughes · Total Health ·Marjorie Krager · Norm Krauskopf ·Sandy Lamoureux · Dave Larose
Michael Lewis · Carol Lindsay · Paola Lombardi · James Lundberg · Theresa Maloy
Julie McClintock · Glen McCollough · Hugo Miller · Lisa Miller · Dan Mitchell · Susan Moore
Roberto Mora · Mayra Morales · Linda Morfopoulos · Alan Morrissett · Sanjeev Naikawaki
Stacey Nelson · Tyler Orion · Laura Paulin · Guy Peloquin · Laurrie Perrin · Robert Powers
Suzanne Pratt · Mary Price · Gerri Salinas · Pam Savelo · Jeff Schaffner · Sheryl Schaffner
Karen Singhrs · Tech-Acumen Inc. · Joseph Wagner · Colleen Weinsten · Rhoda Zeffert
Carmina Baar · Trudy Kovacs · Aurora Varela · Luis Quintana Ruiz · Aide Dal Pozzo
Sheena Deguzman · Ben Dodds · Mike Graham · Shane Hanning · Paul Henderson · Irene Kitchen Elizabeth Moss Diane Murphy · Sharon Bauch · Tanya Berger · John Marsh ·Tinsley Nugent
Jesse Scheuer · Craig Smith · Jaciel Barragan · Kebar Lopez · Roberto Siurob · Dayen Domez
Jacquie Margo · Cesario Diaz · Joe Miranda · Kenny Pasque · Kevin Maloy · Robin Schwartzehauer Lucio Canseco · Bianca Cartes · Betty Cotner · James Cundiff · Gina Graziano · Susan Hughes
Maria Ortega · Annette Pratte · Genova Cisneros · Bianca Reynoso · Omar Santos · Michael Celeste
Mike Edmunson · Hubert Heller · Lucia Mouet · Guillermo Mouet · Mary Frost


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Iknowtoomuch

Gold Meritorious Patron
Now it would be very interesting to see where those same people are on the bridge. For more than one reason. One is to see just how "able" Scientology makes them. That can mostly be seen that the huge majority is giving less then $500. Not a surprise.
But also to see if these people are giving money when it could be (at least) going to their "bridge".

Either way. When Scientology falls, they will regret. And those donations can't be returned.:no:
 

Voltaire's Child

Fool on the Hill
It really makes my blood boil to see people being ripped off like that. Wasn't there a webpage or site that had a bunch of stories from people about how they were donating money to it and why? Someone linked to it on OCMB a couple years ago. I remember being aghast at some of the rationalizations.
 

uniquemand

Unbeliever
That's like $12 million. What are they buying - a palace?

Paul

Twelve million will buy about three nice houses in San Diego. So, probably a fairly nice, but small, building.

I think they shelled out something like 30 million to buy the place in San Francisco (which is a GREAT location). Really not that much for commercial real estate in a major city.
 

scooter

Gold Meritorious Patron
Is this money already handed over or just "pledged?"

I've seen "pledged" money counted on this sort of thing before - it's a bit like the old "postulate cheque" schemes the reges had going on in the 70s and 80s.

Woulld also like to know where the money collected is RIGHT NOW - DM's Golden Parachute Fund? :p
 

DCAnon

Silver Meritorious Patron
My name is on that list and I never gave them a dime for that project.

ROFLMAO!! No wonder they keep telling people the stats are up if they just start making up donations! Ahahahahaha!



And how many people do you think that actually donated will notice the ideal org won't ever open and that the money mysteriously disappears?
 

Thrak

Gold Meritorious Patron
And the way they do it they don't even have to wait for the next minute. They just add somebody else's name to the list.
 
Some people have so much loot they can easily afford to waste it.

Some of the people giving money, not in the millions, but in the thousands would have had more discomfort from giving the loot to the cult.
 

sallydannce

Gold Meritorious Patron
My name is on that list and I never gave them a dime for that project.

This is so funny! So they are lying!!!! God damn who would have thought the most ethical group on the planet was capable of such a thing...

Jeez scientology is a joke! Cruel and inhumane and a friggin' sick joke!
 

Tiger Lily

Gold Meritorious Patron
My name is on that list and I never gave them a dime for that project.

:omg: Wow -- no kidding? They're hurting worse than I thought.

I wonder if these guys are thinking about what all this out-ethics in their PR is doing to their eternities? :eyeroll:

There wasn't much left of the castle in the air I once believed Scientology to be, but when I read this kind of thing, even the rubble falls into pieces

:bricks:

Thanks for that info,

-TL
 

FoTi

Crusader
Saw some OT 8s that I used to know on this list.....funny thing, they're in the section that donated the least money. Guess they don't think it's very important to donate to this building fund. :eyeroll:
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
My name is on that list and I never gave them a dime for that project.

Would you be able to ask them about it? Don't do it if you are concerned about compromising your anonymity etc.

Rather than a complete falsehood, it could be that some "helpful" person donated say $50 "on behalf of others", and they dug up 50 names to put on the list to make it look like more people are donating than really are. But in a way that is almost defensible, kind of.

Paul
 
well the building the bought with that money was the old coleman college location in la mesa... the building is in shambles and has gone to even worse condition since they bought it... they claim they paid 9.8mil for it but according to Coleman Furr the man that sold them the building, they paid 20mil (time to report them to the IRS eh?) the building is huge, but the landscaping is a mess, theres tons of broken windows boarded up, ceiling is caving in in many sections because of a leaky roof, theres a sewer line that runs under the property that apparently has a leak, theres a beam in the ceiling that runs across the entire building and has a crack all the way through(there was a post put in this to hold the beam up 20 years ago, I cant wait til they get rid of the post thats totally in the way... OOPS), theres a side building built over a stream with a slab that was very wavy about 100 25lbs bags of asbestos filled floor patch was put into it in 1983 to get it smooth, and all the neighbors hate scientology.... boy was this a waste of money
 
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