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Holy Crap! Karen exposes more cult crimes!

Discussion in 'Staff "War Stories"' started by Kookaburra, Jun 13, 2011.

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  1. Kookaburra

    Kookaburra Gold Meritorious Patron

    Just ran across this thread on OCMB. It is massive! Karen has been working overtime.

    Rape! Pedophilia! Cover up! Perverting the course of justice!

    Read HERE
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2011
  2. Feral

    Feral Rogue male

    Re: Holy Crap! Karen firebombs the cult!


    I''m so sorry for Karen and Alexander. The cult has provided so many painful experiences for so many people, this is no exception.

    Just one thing, where's the firebomb? You do know that a Scottish CofS site was threatened with fire or bombing....seems like loaded language to me to use it in this case.
  3. Re: Holy Crap! Karen firebombs the cult!

    The Golden Rule of Hubbard's Standard Tech

    Anything that gets people to part with their money and hand it over to Hubbard's Cult is the pinnacle of spirituality, anything that stands between Hubbard's cult and a dollar is perverse, sinister, and morally and ethically corrupt.

    PR flaps fall under the latter, so Scientologists practicing Standard Tech Scientology is really not that surprising to anyone who understand's Hubbard's Standard Tech, however it should shock the hell out of the rest of the world that is not familiar with Hubbard and his 'Tech', because yes Scientology is worse than you think.
  4. Kookaburra

    Kookaburra Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Holy Crap! Karen firebombs the cult!

    Figure of speech, Feral. Seems to me to fit. No, I hadn't heard of any fire or bomb threat in Scotland. I did hear about the video bomb threat they made to themselves and attributed to Anonymous, though. And the box of Valentines candy they called the bomb squad about in SF. :eyeroll:

    The cult certainly has a knack for ruining peoples lives. Karen has had it particularly rough since DM took over. If I were in her position I'd be furious. From the looks of what is on that thread, I'd say those were all from affidavids and I suspect they are already in the hands of the FBI. There are more witnesses there than OSA would ever hope to discredit or silence. I reckon this one will blow sky a figure of speech of course. :coolwink:
  5. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Re: Holy Crap! Karen firebombs the cult!

    Not to mention, their representative DID allegedly conspire to blow up a Scientology Center in Israel and then blame it on those who had a deep disagreement with Scientology being there. That's what the police believe anyhow. :whistling:

    It's very sad what she had to put up with. If she goes to the authorities with it she'll be setting a good example for others to follow. It may not be the Way to Happiness but will help keep others in the future from also getting involved, and hopefully contribute to putting this criminal cult out of business. And that would make ME happy. :yes:
  6. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    How horrible for Karen....I hope this gets followed up on.

    Kooka, I agree that your thread title is perhaps not a good one when they are looking for things that indicate violence.
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2011
  7. Kookaburra

    Kookaburra Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Holy Crap! Karen firebombs the cult!

    OK, I changed it. You guys just don't like the picturesque language, lol.
  8. Natalie

    Natalie Patron with Honors

    What happened to Karen's son is disgusting and another horrible example of how sexual abuse is covered up in the Church of Scientology. Exposure of these types of crimes publicly is the only way to get them to change.
  9. BC1

    BC1 Patron with Honors

    So has Karen or anyone actually taken this to the police yet?
  10. i'mglib

    i'mglib Patron with Honors

    Thanks for bringing this up.

    Jan Eastgate isn't the only one covering up sexual abuse of children by the Church of Scientology.

    Karen#1 posted a sad story about her son on scientology-cult. Karen's ex-husband, Heber Jentzsch, has long been captive at Gold Base, where he is either confined or is doing manual labor. He has almost no contact to the outside world. Karen's son has disconnected from her, due to interference from the church.

    On, Karen#1 posted the following in the comments section:

    This is very sad indeed, and there ar probably many more victims remaining silent.
  11. anonomog

    anonomog Gold Meritorious Patron

    OMG Karen.
    Thank you for bringing this to light. it must have been a particularly hard decision to make.
  12. Karen#1

    Karen#1 Gold Meritorious Patron

    Little did I dream or predict what would happen to Alexander Jentzsch by permitting him to join the "Sea Organization".

    One would think a "Church" would be safe.

    Alexander was put to slave labor cleaning toilets and carpets and filthy back room staircases with no schooling when he was 12 -13 years old. This is while a 40 year old was having sex with him. Never reported to Heber or me. Never reported to Clearwater PD.

    Alexander was put on a "muzzle" and "gag" order ~~ he was never to speak of it.
    Even though we had very private conversations for years later, he never mentioned it. Only others who were there at the time reported to me in the last year, which is how I found out.

    While the "Church" is quick to call in Law Enforcement if they feel a minor infraction is being done against them ~~ OSA, RTC and Office of "COB" refuse to report actual crimes within the Church. Alexander is only one example. The "Church" prefers to protect its PR when it comes to internal abuses and is not interested in Justice.

    After they built a fantasy hate web site on me ~~ a tissue of lies as is all their tabloid hate sites, they had my son Alexander Jentzsch phone me to GUIDE me to the hate web site.

    How down and dirty do they get ?
    It is one thing to build a hate website.

    I believe it is over the top to send one's child to read it and send their parent to read it.
    I served the "Church" for decades of my life.
    I have come to see this is a criminal organization
  13. Arthur Dent

    Arthur Dent Silver Meritorious Patron

    I only imagine your bravery in posting this.
    I hope by searching Alexander Jentzsch online that someone will help enlighten Alexander as to the criminal aspect of his care as a child being the reason for such favored treatment now within the church. Then, if he has any cajones he will turn and spit on them. It will happen.
    Thank you for posting this, Karen.
  14. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    This is Marie with her current husband Pedro Bossio. They live in Tujunga.


    Marie, Pedro, their son, Christopher and Marie's daughters, Lucy & Christina are on Facebook. Christina lists the Flag Cadet School on hers. (need a FB account to access) (Lucy Cole Warren) (Christina)
  15. Moosejewels

    Moosejewels Patron Meritorious

    Truly a violation of not just the law, but the certainty of trust a "child" beleives he has towards an "adult". And this woman had three daughters. I do hope thay have survived her !
  16. Marie, Marie, Marie. Well, maybe this explains why Marie became part of the "Scientology Facebook Police" along with her pal, JoJo Zawawi. Marie was the catalyst behind my husband's declare which all began when he refused to disconnect from someone on Facebook. Her husband, Pedro, (I thought he was her ex) also joined in the fun. (BTW, we love being declared now! It just wasn't so hot when we were going through all the disconnection, etc.)

    Marie has created a great deal of pain and sorrow in this world for a lot of people. The fact that it's coming back to bite her in the ass doesn't surprise me. We always figured OSA had something on her as she was so vicious and fanatical. But child rape? No way! I feel for the whole Jentsch family and I feel for Marie's kids, too. Just a tragedy all around. I appreciate Karen telling the story and her dogged persistence. This revelation about Marie will provide closure for a lot of people who have been hurt by her. Another puzzle piece falls into place.

    Karen, and all you brave friends who wrote about what happened - THANK YOU.
  17. Arthur Dent

    Arthur Dent Silver Meritorious Patron

    Wow. And Marie....making amends relentlessly to secure her own spiritual freedom. She never forgets her sins. OSA keeps her reminded by extracting payment from her in evil deeds and will continue to do so. They will continue to keep her soul so black and dark by what they make her do. It's a circle of insanity. OSA: hiding crimes in scientology doesn't help you, scinetology, the perp, the victim or anyone. You have been seriously misled.
  18. smartone

    smartone My Own Boss

    What's so sad is that Alexander told these SO ladies how he thinks his Dad Heber disapproves of him.

    That Alexander loves and misses his dad and hasn't seen him for six years.

    How cruel can a group be to keep family members apart.

    When I was in, I used to hear that SO couples sometimes were split up for months or years "for the sake of clearing the planet". I used to admire their tenacity and strength of purpose. :duh:
  19. Karen#1

    Karen#1 Gold Meritorious Patron

    Thank you for the responses.
    Thank you Smurf for the image of Marie Warren.
    Sex 2x with a 12 year old, but no prosecution, no law enforcement and now she works for OSA on Facebook with Jo Jo Zawawi.

    Interesting that OSA would use a non prosecuted Child molester and give her "clearances." Of course she was not a felon as they covered it all up and did not get her prosecuted.


    It seems like RTC and "Office of COB" and OSA is fixated on sexual crimes while they commit there own dirty deeds in the same area.

    I recall my good friend Tory (Magoo) telling me that they published her home phone number on a Porn site so that she got vulgar phone calls all hours of the day and night.

    I recall Marty published the "Church of Scientology"'s OSA Program to harm Chuck Beatty

    OSA Progam excerpt :

    22. Have Sam verify if Beatty is into downloading child porn (this was an area of interest in the past). This will need to be done by getting the trust built up so that Beatty talks about this or shows him what is on his computer.


    23. Conditional: If Beatty has downloaded anything that appears to be child porn, get this reported to law enforcement right away.

    This is what they use Law Enforcement for. Dirty Dirty Deeds. Manufactured crimes. "Intelligence", the PIs, the Lawyers with unlimited budget from gouged Parishioner funds $$$$$ all on a 501C 3 "religious exemption"

    Hurray for Internet transparency !