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I still feel like a scientologist when...

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by Irayam, Feb 3, 2019.

  1. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    Every time I am in a city near an "IDEAL" org, I take my daily walk by it--to see what how well the planet clearers are doing. They've been at it 69 years now so I am always expecting to see long lines outside of people hoping to pay for their bridge and schedule the soonest auditor that becomes available. I always suspect the demand for "total freedom" and "happiness" and "health" and "prosperity" is so overwhelming that the waiting list probably can't see any new PreClears until some time in late 2020.

    Yet, every time I walk by one of those Ideal Orgs, nobody is inside. Just a receptionist and on rare occasions a single pedestrian who got body routed inside, only to be seated uncomfortably near the front window and told to watch a video screen. Not even a back rest chair, just a bench. What's up with that?

    Well, it appears that the public has a severe "com lag". Higher toned beings respond instantly to the offer of acquiring god-like miraculous powers. Wogs, on the other hand, can't duplicate the simple (obvious) fact that if they just do what the Scientology staff members TELL them to do, they will have huge havingness and thereby huge bucks.

    Beings with huge havingness automatically can earn huge bucks! Unlike the beings with huge havingness staff members who can beg random pedestrians for huge bucks. Staff live below the poverty line, yet they are masters of finance. They can clay demo for you how if you give money to the org, your "flows will open up" and you will "pull in" an "abundance" of money.

    Like all Scientologists, they can explain it perfectly. They just can't do it.

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  2. screamer2

    screamer2 Idiot Bastardson

  3. lookatthat

    lookatthat New Member

    Told my boyfriend to "make it go right" fairly recently and I'm still cringing.
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  4. NoIdea

    NoIdea Patron with Honors

    I said something about "making it go right" today at work!

    When I do stuff like that, I panic. What if someone else in the office is also an ex-Scio or worse, an active one? Did I just out myself? I look around to see if anyone is looking at me strangely. Then I realize I'm just being paranoid.

    18 years out.
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  5. Sometimes I think "that was a major outpoint" when it seems like it was.
    Sometimes I try to indicate someone's BPC
    Sometimes I feel like I am translating words from Scientologese to English in my head like a person who natively speaks another language
    Sometimes I try to up the affinity or reality in a situation to get things rolling
    Sometimes I apply the affluence formula if I am in affluence
    Probably there are some others but I don't want a load of flack so I will stop here

    Before you go on a roll about how bad these answers are, I am just answering the question.
  6. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    When I feel I must handle people's to save them...
    Actually I still do it often..but I am aware of this compulsion and can refrain...

    I realized not that long ago that solving people'sproblem for them is like telling them they can't do it and are not competent to manage their life.:oops:

    I like when people tell me they know I can solve tough situations and make good decisions as it empowers me; thus I now try to do the same for people in challenging times...with telling I support them and am confident in their resiliency.

    Isn't it so condescending to think we are more competent than people to solve what we perceive as their issues?..very $cientologist who will save others..blind slave leading others on the road to freedom...:oops:
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2019
  7. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

    Yes, I know exactly what you mean, I had a similar realisation myself ... having said that (in your case) you have pointed me in a few new directions over the years that have been truly helpful in rethinking or doing things ... I hope you don't stop gently doing that when you feel you have something to offer.
  8. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    It's nice of you to say so sis...
  9. Dotey OT

    Dotey OT Cyclops Duck of the North - BEWARE

    My fiance and I, having a lunch with a never in, and listening to how they were "never fooled by scn". When we were in, people said stupid things about scn (or so we thought), now we're out and people say stupid things about scn. Trying not to be insulted, or feeling attacked, that always makes me feel like a scientologist.
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  10. TomKat

    TomKat Patron Meritorious

    When I wake up at 3:15 am, put the Apollo Stars LP on the turntable, stand in front of the LRH poster on my wall and yell "Hip, Hip, Hurray!" while loading a round into my Russian roulette revolver to test my ability to postulate :)
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  11. Soul of Ginnungagab

    Soul of Ginnungagab Patron with Honors

    A proffesional windows cleaner told me that newspapers used to be very good for windows cleaning. But the paper and ink in modern newspapers are different compared with the past which means that modern newspapers are not really fit for that purpose.
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  12. Irayam

    Irayam Patron with Honors

    There are even squirrels in paper and ink manufacturers!
    Where the hell are we going?!?

  13. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    Waxed car soap with Squeegee makes the job way better... :cool:
  14. Operating DB

    Operating DB Truman Show Dropout

    That explains why my hands get black with ink when using newspaper to clean with.
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  15. Soul of Ginnungagab

    Soul of Ginnungagab Patron with Honors

    When I was a teenager I made money bringing out morning newspapers. I soon found that you need workwear for this because your clothes get dirty from the ink.
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  16. JustSheila

    JustSheila Crusader

    Yeh, I had a paper route as a kid. My hands and clothes would get filthy from putting all the inserts in the papers and rubber-banding them together.
  17. Operating DB

    Operating DB Truman Show Dropout

    I was a paperboy too! I don't recall if I got dirty or not. i guess it was no concern if i did. But nowadays I'm acutely aware of my filthy hands after reading a newspaper. The wash water is black.
  18. NoIdea

    NoIdea Patron with Honors

    Not quite the same, but at my company we have these desk phones that prop up at an angle using a single leg that pivots out of the back of the phone. I can't tell you how many times my heart rate has gone up when I walk by an office and for a split second think I'm seeing an emeter on the desk.
  19. vumba

    vumba Danielle Chamberlin

    Yes I can definitely relate to this, and I still do a contact assist if so hurt myself, or run a locational if I am a bit dizzy etc. I used the postulate as a concept just the other day.
  20. Wilbur

    Wilbur Patron Meritorious

    OMG. I've just discovered what pre-disposes somebody to joining Scientology: it's having been a paper boy/girl previously! I ran out my paperboy timetrack just now, and now I'm having win-after-win-after-win-after-win.