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John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Home

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by CommunicatorIC, Nov 16, 2014.

  1. uncover

    uncover Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    Maybe shyster El Con Hubbard in reality lived in the renovated small house and for taking pictures he moved across the road to the bigger house ? From El Con Hubbard you can expect everything.....

    (Rule: If you think the worst of El Con Hubbard it will not be bad enough....)
     
  2. La La Lou Lou

    La La Lou Lou Crusader

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    I did go up and down the street in google street view, and they are mostly enormous houses along there. Many houses now have double garages newly built. It is quite possible that the youngish couple lived in the 'servants quarters'. It could also be that some of the pictures are taken from the back?

    Oh and welcome!
     
  3. Draco

    Draco New Member

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    Thanks for the welcome, La La Lou Lou.
    It seems you might be right about the living arrangements - according to Wikipedia:
    "Campbell invited Hubbard and Sara to move into a cottage at Bay Head, New Jersey, not far from his own home at Plainfield."

    The house LRH is posing in front of, is 664 East Ave, and definitely not a cottage. Although what now looks to be a garage could have been a cottage back then.
     
  4. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    Here's a screenshot from Google Maps. The image is dated August 2013. Centre frame is No. 666 (you can see the house number).

    [​IMG]

    Paul
     
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  5. La La Lou Lou

    La La Lou Lou Crusader

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    There's not a lot of cottages in that area now, they are monsters those houses! Perhaps originally the cottages would have been for staff, most likely the black nanny or maid, it would have been rundown cheap and affordable but giving the prestige of the address, that's in character.

    Cottage, by the way, in Uk is a euphemism for public toilet, especially where gentlemen go to meet other gentlemen when their wives are having headaches.
     
  6. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

  7. secretiveoldfag

    secretiveoldfag Silver Meritorious Patron

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    Nobody could ever describe no.666 or 664 across the road as a cottage, but both are older than 1950.

    Since it's certain Elcon didn't have two dollars to his name at that point in his life, it's evident that John Campbell offered him an empty cottage out of sympathy (Sara was pregnant and had the baby while living there). He (Campbell) presumably owned the house facing 666 ie the one in the photograph with Hubbard.

    This is the best Elcon story for a while.
     
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  8. Elronius of Marcabia

    Elronius of Marcabia Silver Meritorious Patron

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    I think he just walked across the street took the pictures as if he owned the place
    when in actual fact he and his wife Sarah had a room at 666 loaned to him
    because he was broke and had a wife and a kid.
     
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  9. Elronius of Marcabia

    Elronius of Marcabia Silver Meritorious Patron

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    Not a wonder that John Campbell is never thanked for his kindness to Sarah and Hubbard, he had a huge secret he did'nt

    want known and neither does CO$ , he was already married to his first wife and was a bigamist with a kid by another woman
    Sarah Hubbard.
     
  10. Little David

    Little David Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    From a Scientology website:

    November 14, 1949 Bay Head, New Jersey

    Dear Russell,

    Thank you so much for the skunk cabbage. It was just what I wanted. Nothing could have been sweeter. However, your letter left much to be desired. If you had nothing better to say you shouldn’t have said anything at all.

    I am dug down here in a very nice windbreak.... I have eight bedrooms here to wander around and contemplate. If you get tired of the wilds of Kansas you are hereby invited to come down and view the wilds of New Jersey.

    The ocean is just outside the front door but it knows its place and never makes a real nuisance of itself. And if it does, why, we just go to a movie until the house has settled back down on its foundation again.

    Right now there are a couple of writers staying here. They weren’t invited guests like yourself. They just stopped by for dinner one night around the first of October. They are wonderful plot material though.

    I’m still doing this research on the mind. The results are going to be published soon and then I’ll have time to do a little something on the line of stories. I am working on a movie shooting script but that’s about all at the present time....

    I wish you’d let go and write me one of your famous letters. I think you must be about three behind me by now. Get at least one out before the drifts lock you in for the winter. I’d like to hear what you are calling work these days. I always get a laugh out of that.

    Thanks again for the spice.

    Sincerely, Ron

    [​IMG]

    Warning, Scientology site: http://www.traditionalhubbard.org/page11.htm
     
  11. Elronius of Marcabia

    Elronius of Marcabia Silver Meritorious Patron

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    The home he never livied in or owned, way to go Schizo's lying is what they like Hubbard did best :yes:
     
  12. Little David

    Little David Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    Thank you for finding and posting this photo. I don't remember ever seeing a photo of Sara, LRH AND Alexis together. Scientolgy and John Travolta seem very confused about which house in Bay Head NJ LRH stayed at and probably deny that Sara and Alexis were ever there!

    From another thread, this is a photo of Alexis's daughter and grand daughter:

    [​IMG]

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?32356-Alexis-erased-daughter-of-L-Ron-Hubbard
     
  13. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    If you Google "666 East Ave, Bay Head, NJ" some interesting tidbits show up, like the date of the sale (2010) and this:

    http://www.bayheadnj.org/bhnj/Plann...das & Minutes/PlanningBoardMinutesFeb2011.pdf

    It is the local planning board minutes for Feb 2011, covering the changes the cult (Heritage Properties International) proposed doing to restore the property to its 1949/50 state. I don't see anything remarkable there, beyond maybe:

    Mr. Zabarsky stated that the architect, on behalf of the applicant, has confirmed that they
    know the permitted use in the zone is a single family residential dwelling and that is the
    intent of how it will be used. This will be a condition of the resolution. The representation
    is that it is not going to be a museum. If it were to be used for any other use they would
    have to come back in front of the Board.​


    I don't know how true that is. :)

    Paul
     
  14. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    Heritage Properties International?

    Good lord, another front group.

    Looks like the local planning board in Bay Head, New Jersey is going to get a taste of Scientology.
     
  15. secretiveoldfag

    secretiveoldfag Silver Meritorious Patron

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    This is another extract from the same document:

    Seems to me that they withheld relevant information from the Planning Board and that consent ought to be withdrawn.
     
  16. secretiveoldfag

    secretiveoldfag Silver Meritorious Patron

    Re: Grand Opening of Scientology Heritage Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Former Ho

    Maybe this can be Heritage Properties next project. :biggrin:
     
  17. Draco

    Draco New Member

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    Well, I think this is all very interesting - they have a "Heritage Site" which, it seems, is a house Elron lived across the road from.

    Maybe, after all, they just liked the number 666. :melodramatic:
     
  18. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    For what it's worth, 666 East Bay Head was the address in the April 1950 incorporation document for the Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation.

    And, as already mentioned, Mrs. L. Ron Hubbard, as a trustee of the HDRF in April 1950, listed her address as Post Office Box 666.


    [video=youtube;MyfBsewo8lY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyfBsewo8lY[/video]
     
  19. Little David

    Little David Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    So on one Scientology website they say LRH lived in this house in Bay Head, NJ when he wrote Dianetics:
    [​IMG]

    http://www.traditionalhubbard.org/page12.htm

    On another Scientology website they say he lived across the street at this house when he wrote Dianetics:
    [​IMG]
    L. RON HUBBARD HOUSE

    BAYHEAD, NEW JERSEY

    The home where Dianetics and Scientology Founder L. Ron Hubbard authored Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health stands fully restored today in Bay Head, New Jersey, an hour south of New York City on the Atlantic shore.

    Dianetics
    was published in Manhattan on May 9, 1950, and soared straight to the top of The New York Times bestseller list. By the close of the 20th century, it was the best-selling self-help book of all time and remains so today.

    Following meticulous restoration, Mr. Hubbard’s Bay Head residence stands today exactly as it did when he lived here. Through original artifacts, informative displays and photographs, the home relates the origin of the book that provided the means to release the full potential of the human mind.

    The birthplace of Dianetics is open for tours.

    http://www.lronhubbard.org/heritage-sites/bayhead-new-jersey.html




     
  20. uncover

    uncover Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: John Travolta at Grand Opening of Scientology Site of Founder L. Ron Hubbard's Ho

    Hopefully Tony Ortega picks this story of El Con Hubbard, the master of all con-man.....

    "Already in 1950 El Con Hubbard was a pathological liar. Living in East Ave 666, Bay Head, NJ El Con Hubbard moved across the street to house no. 664 to take pictures of himself for the purpose to send them to his friends like Robert Heinlein & Co falsely claiming to live in this house and to have "eight bedrooms to wander around and contemplate." "


     
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