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L. Ron Hubbard, Messiah or Madman?

Discussion in 'Great Web Sites and Links' started by Veda, Jun 6, 2007.

  1. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    The book 'L. Ron Hubbard, Messiah or Madman?' has been published in three English language editions, each further revised and updated (1987, 1992, and 1996.) There is also a hardbound Russian language edition that became available in 2005.

    Unlike most other books on Scientology, 'Messiah or Madman?' examines both the "positives" and "negatives" of the subject. It was written under extremely strenuous circumstances, and - I think - despite everything, succeeded in its objective of reaching and helping those who had been involved in Scientology.

    These three links will have to do for now.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard:_Messiah_or_Madman?

    http://www.xenu-directory.net/critics/corydon1.html

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0942637577/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-0654802-4263319

    Anyone who wishes to add excerpts is most welcome to do so.

    Some time later...

    The excerpts, and personal recollections, recently posted by programmer guy are great. And I know Emma, much earlier, has posted some excerpts too.

    Since I have a copy of the 1996 (464 page) edition, here is a little bit of the new material, starting at the very beginning of the book, with an excerpt from the new book flap. (All of the front material, and the top paragraph of the back):

    "I have high hopes of smashing my name
    into history so violently that it will take a
    legendary form even if all the books are
    destroyed. That goal is the real goal as far as
    I am concerned. Things which stand too
    consistently in my way make me nervous.
    It's a pretty big job. In a hundred years
    Roosevelt will have been forgotten - which
    gives some idea of the magnitude of my
    attempt. And all this boils and froths inside
    my head...
    "Psychiatrists, reaching the high of the
    dusty desk, tell us that Alexander, Genghis
    Khan and Napoleon were madmen. I know
    they're maligning some very intelligent
    gentlemen."

    L. Ron Hubbard wrote these words in a letter to
    his first wife in 1938.

    In 1950 he wrote the bestseller 'Dianetics, the
    Modern Science of Mental Health. This inspired a
    layman oriented mental health movement which,
    ultimately, developed into Scientology, the most
    profitable of the money-making new religions.

    Hubbard's early Dianetic and Scientology writings
    borrow freely from Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, and
    the founder of General Semantics, Alfred Korzybski.

    And P.T. Barnum appears to have been an inspiration.

    Hubbard also took much from the writings of Aleister
    Crowley - self-proclaimed "Beast 666." This is a source
    of embarrassment for the Scientology Church, which
    is determined to achieve broad public acceptance.

    In the 1960s Hubbard incorporated Brainwashing
    methodologies into the subject. He established the
    "Fair Game Policy" which states that an "enemy" of
    Scientology "may be deprived of property or injured
    by any means by any Scientologist, without
    discipline of that Scientologist. May be tricked,
    sued, lied to or destroyed."

    He also became the Commodore of his own private
    navy, and began to refer to himself as "Source."

    'L. Ron Hubbard, Messiah or Madman?' exposes
    as never before the dark side of Scientology, yet
    contains an in-depth examination of the potential
    positives of the subject and their actual origins.
     
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2010
  2. programmer_guy

    programmer_guy True Ex-Scientologist

    Here is a link to the text:
    http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/mom/Messiah_or_Madman.txt

    I think that there may be some occassional OCR errors in the content of the above BUT it is still readable.

    I was on staff when we made this move into that big building from an old house in Riverside. I didn't know about La Quinta until much later because I had left in Spring 1976 and, eventually, had cut ties.

    Yes, I remember that it was pretty big. I have posted pics here of the building on the "Riverside Mission" thread.

    "self-abnegation"... I remember this. I lived in the basement for awhile with several other staff. I had also lost some weight which had my parents a little concerned.
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2007
  3. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    The thread, Reading "Messiah or Madman?":

    http://forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=275

    Note - the OCR link to the text, though dated "1998," is only for the rush-to-print 1987 edition. As far as I know, there are no available scans of latter editions.
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2010
  4. Royal Prince Xenu

    Royal Prince Xenu Trust the Psi Corps.

    As I read more and more of the various topics on this board, it rapidly emerges that 90% of useful materials that came out of the org were not from LRH "source" but in fact stolen from other philosophers and writers.

    Messiah: Definitely not.

    Madman: Undecided.

    And as for the ongoing argument about what an ex-scientiologist is, I would suggest that anyone still using any of the plagiarized material can safetly call themselves ex(non)scientologists because the product was never scientiology in the first place.

    So there!
     
  5. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Veteran Sea Org member, Chuck Beatty, on 'Messiah or Madman?' by former Mission Holder and Class 8 auditor, Bent Corydon:

    http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=22768
     
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2010