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  1. Idle Morgue

    Idle Morgue Gold Meritorious Patron

    Some things NEVER change - and when it comes to Scientology, whether in the Cult or out in an INDIE group - here ya go:

    From LIE-L-Stone II's Super Theetan Indie "gonna still save the world" Calvin :


    I have said so much already, on the source of these attacks, that repetition is pointless.

    • I agree with Lana, it’s all just pathetic noise,:duh: and I now believe it best handled in four
      effective steps:

      :ohmy:1) Ignore!
      :ohmy: 2) Establish a worthwhile purpose/s (if not already done!)
      :unsure:3) Network, work hard & smart, flourish & prosper, using ARC/ KRC.
      :nervous:4) Build relationships with like-minded, supportive people. (Building relationships in Scientology? IMPOSSIBLE! Ever try to be friends with a Scientologist? Good luck with that one! The days of having tender loving care using the TEK is virtually impossible - the "compassion gets audited out!!). :yes:

      ML, Calvin.
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      • [​IMG]theosismanides June 29, 2013 at 1:26 am Calvin, good summation! 1, 2, 3, 4. happy to see you here and pitching in! Good summary! 1, 2, 3, 4. Like LRH used to do. Codifying things instead of speaking randomly.
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        • [​IMG]Calvin B Duffield June 29, 2013 at 2:30 am Hey Theo, thanks man. Truth be told, I learn something from everyone I meet! One of the most valuable “something’s” though, is the ability to see & correct what isn’t working (Qual).:omg:
          I see that capacity exemplified in Lana, and her refusal to get thrown off her purposes, too.
          Keeping it simple,:whistling: as you say, like i, 2, 3, 4.

          ML,Calvin.
    • [​IMG]Calvin B Duffield June 28, 2013 at 7:03 pm Lana,
      Now over the frustrations in trying to hitch up my registration, thanks. Just need to say what a wonderful new spacious layout this place has. So, one feels they’re no longer cooped up in a “box”. “Space”, is conducive (and synonymous) to “beingness”…. So kudos on that.:wtf::wacko::headspin::headspin::headspin::headspin::headspin::headspin::headspin::smoking:

      Also great to see a bunch of familiar rebels ‘n ol’ crocks here too. (wink!)
      Well, MS2 has come back from a heavy engram, inflicted before birth, and survived against all predictions that it wouldn’t. KNOWING, what tried to kill it, can certainly help to make it stronger.
      “When children become unimportant to a society, that society has forfeited its future.” LRH.
      Looks to me like we’re all invited to be step-fathers & step mothers, to your newborn, Lana?
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    • [​IMG]Chris Black June 28, 2013 at 8:14 pm One of the best codes ever written by the old man. Hell, all his codes are just so bloody spot on, they really show the true compassion of Scientology and of LRH. But this one is just marvelous.
      #16 really applies to all of us who have been part of the Church of Scientology, whether on staff or not. As LRH said in KSW, it has something to do with us whether we are on staff or not. The (mis) application of Scientology tech in the Church (and in the field) occurs because we didn’t insist hard enough that it be kept standard,:whistling: REGARDLESS OF THE CONSEQUENCES. This goes for everyone, Scientologist and ex-Scientologist and imposter alike.

      #17 has to do with what’s occurring in the public eye currently, good or bad. It has always been something to do with us. Any of us has had the opportunity and voice to change public opinion. Some have deemed it worthwhile to contribute to the conflagration; others continue to mend and bring hope to lives new to Scientology or already broken dreams.
      And #2 applies to each of us in the independent field, in the non-CoS arena out here. Every knock, every attack, every derogatory comment, every accolade, every success, is a demonstration of our ability to apply – or not – this point of the Code.
      Interesting, isn’t it, how this Code, if one ever called themselves a Scientologist, how we either contributed to this code or we violated it?
      At least, those are some of my thoughts and perspectives. I’m glad to be reminded of such an ideal Code. Thanks, Lana.
      Chris Black
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      • [​IMG]Calvin B Duffield June 29, 2013 at 3:18 am Chris, really great to see you aboard, and punting your contributions to this Theta Place. We will grow & expand :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:too, by seeing that we collectively help Lana build it from grass roots up. If we dump the seriousness, keep it light & fun, we’ll have a real ball!

        ML, Calvin
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    • [​IMG]Formost June 29, 2013 at 4:55 am Well said, Lana.
      Reply
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  2. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Milestone Two has 20 members

    Milestone Two has 20 members

    Paul Foster
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    Lana Mitchell
    David Cooke
    ingrid smith
    Max Bleiweiss
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    Mickey Edwards
    Sue Henson
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  3. In present time

    In present time Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Milestone Two has 20 members

    Lisa Hamilton? Is that Mark Hamiltons wife? Mark was my old Asho (Day?) course supervisor. Always loved him. He seemed to maintain a light hearted demeanour that just made you want to be a good little study, special for him:)
     
  4. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Logan: Policy is not subject to KSW, and can be revised, or something, maybe.

    Logan: Policy is not subject to KSW, and can be revised, or something, maybe.

    It appears Logan, continuing (and always continuing) an old fight with Marty (without, of course, mentioning Marty), is trying to say that "Policy" (i.e., HCOPLs), as opposed to Tech (i.e., HCOBs), is not subject to KSW (without mentioning KSW), or is subject to revision, or something.... maybe.

    Perhaps someone here can figure it out.

    The nature of policy
    http://milestonetwo.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/the-nature-of-policy/

    Extract:
     
  5. uncover

    uncover Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Milestone Two has 20 members

    Interesting stat:

    So the majority of the members (14) belongs to the "club of the leftovers". Those who entered in the 70´s and 80´s and didn´t make it out just in time.
     
  6. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Milestone Two has 20 members

    The fact that all but three are 39 years old or older also says something.
     
  7. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    "I have studied alot of admin tech and the fundamentals are very sane and survival."

    http://milestonetwo.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/the-nature-of-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-73
     
  8. Panda Termint

    Panda Termint Cabal Of One


    CIC, Hubbard gave scientologists a get-out-of-policy-free card with his statement,
    "Purpose is senior to Policy."

    It's a "Do as Thou Wilt as long as you're making money for me!" kinda thing.
     
  9. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    Re: "I have studied alot of admin tech and the fundamentals are very sane and surviva

    "In the wrong hands,ANYTHING can be used as a weapon, even the beautiful F/N. The ” 3 swing F/N” has destroyed lives.
    Is it the person applying or is it the tech itself that is at fault? Before a person can honestly answer that, they need to study the material, wordclear it, get checked out on it-go out and apply it ,then get crammed on it for any misapplications and possibly get audited in the area for any charge, O/Ws etc."


    oh yes, your needle is floating, I don't care if once or twenty times

    so one is supposed to feel good now that he has an F/N, as[STRIKE] indicated[/STRIKE] evaluated by the auditor who is one with the emeter.

    or maybe relief like "thank gawd it's over". Put on a happy face and go out and have a smoke. LOL

    Of course there were those few sessions when I was really blow out.
     
  10. TG1

    TG1 Angelic Poster

    I can see the future of Scientology: Your very own robot auditor, E-meter with extra cans in a box.

    Then Scientologists can argue about which model of robot auditor is more standard than other models.

    TG1

    [​IMG]
     
  11. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation



    It can't be easy ... they seem to have gained David Cooke and Bruce Smith but lost Lawrence Lynas - Jones.
     
  12. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    O ye of little faith. . . .

    Paul
     
  13. In present time

    In present time Gold Meritorious Patron

    http://gerryarmstrong.ca/archives/773

    maybe this should have its own thread. Gerry Armstrong has challenged Marty to a debate.
    exchanged emails at link.
    Well one person is emailing (Gerry) and Marty is just ad homming.
     
  14. Caroline

    Caroline Patron Meritorious

    Thanks, In present time. You're right--it does deserve a thread, as there is an update.
     
  15. In present time

    In present time Gold Meritorious Patron

    would you mind making it caroline? i'm on my phone and should have been out the door five minutes ago.
     
  16. Caroline

    Caroline Patron Meritorious

  17. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

    I was wondering when Victim Tech™ would make its appearance in the narrative. Took me a while to get how it worked and then I asked Veda . . .

     
  18. TG1

    TG1 Angelic Poster

    Thanks, Infinite.

    Yeah, I think Scientology does play the societal victim. After all, they're a persecuted religion. :coolwink:

    However, this approach isn't unique to Scientology. It's widely used in political, celebrity and legal fora, to name a few. Also, some of my family members have this tek down cold. :hysterical:

    TG1
     
  19. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Milestone Two now has 21 members

    Milestone Two now has 21 members

    Nancy Foster
    Clearwater, United States

    Bob Simpson
    Brisbane, Australia

    Bruce Smith
    Sydney, Australia
    Nice to be here -- Australia seems to be the place things are happening

    Bernie Jackson
    Vancouver, Canada
    Bernie you will need to update this with your own description

    ingrid smith
    los angeles, United States

    David Cooke
    Adelaide, Australia

    Mickey Edwards
    Plano, United States

    Moti Weizman
    Haifa, Israel

    Lisa Hamilton
    Gardnerville, United States

    Sue Henson
    Balwyn North, Australia

    Bernie Wimbush
    Perth, Australia

    Max Bleiweiss
    Vero Beach, United States

    Paul Foster
    Clearwater, United States

    Chris Mann
    Dunlap, United States
    I got into Scientology in 1991 and was on staff in a Class V Org (Phoenix) for 2/12 years and later around 1 1/2 years, paid my fr…

    Kevin Boland
    Denver, United States
    30 Year Scientologist

    Dani Lemberger
    Haifa, Israel

    Bellido AC9
    Florida, United States
    An Independent Scientologist

    Dan Koon
    Halmstad, Sweden

    Jim Logan
    Margaree Valley, Canada

    Mark Shreffler
    Santa Fe, United States

    Lana Mitchell
    Gundaroo, Australia
    MS2 site administrator

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  20. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime

    Re: Mark Shreffler supports Milestone Two

    fif(him)

    Wow I think I found the MU behind this whole thing. Just a bit of clay demo and the case is cracked!