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Looking for photos for the Armstrong Op site

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by Caroline, Sep 26, 2014.

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  1. Caroline

    Caroline Patron Meritorious

    Gerry and I are assembling documents relating to Scientology's fair game on Michael Flynn and Gerry. I'm posting some of these documents on a new site: The Armstrong Op.

    The basic facts of this operation are provided in Gerry's 1994 declaration. (Of course we know much more about the Armstrong Op in 2014. )

    There are many operators in this massive Scientology conspiracy, some for which I do not yet have photos. Here are The Operators to date. (Clicking on their images will take you to documents by or about them.)

    At this time, I'm lacking photos for the following operators, and am forced to use a simple "Thetan" symbol placeholder:

    1. David Aden
    2. Geoffrey Shervell
    3. Laurie J. Bartilson
    4. Kenneth D. Long
    5. Helen M. Barlow
    6. Lynn R. Farny

    Can someone here confirm that this is the same David Aden who was Director of Public Affairs OSA Boston in 1984? http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2E8lpzucyiU/0.jpg
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2014
  2. Churchill

    Churchill Gold Meritorious Patron

    I wish that Marty, Mike, and Gerry Armstrong could resolve their differences, because their combined knowledge, pooled together, could answer many questions.

    The only one who benefits from this discord is the cult.
     
  3. Caroline

    Caroline Patron Meritorious

    The difference between Mark Rathbun, Mike Rinder and Gerry is simple: Gerry wants them to tell the truth about the Armstrong Op, which still continues, and they refuse to tell the truth.

    You are right, in that Mark Rathbun's and Mike Rinder's refusal to tell the truth about the op benefits the Miscavige regimers. Mark and Mike know this. They also benefit, because they still serve some of the Scientologists’ purposes.

    In his 2013 Memoirs, Mark actually continues the criminal frame-ups of Michael Flynn and Gerry, which are what the Armstrong op is all about.

    Because neither Mark nor Mike has come forward to tell the truth, but both in their way forward the op against Gerry and others, their celebrated decompression, progression, steps or stages outside the cult can be seen as added layers of deception to keep the op working. Any Scientologist worth his TR-L can mock up steps out.

    The “discord” between Mark, Mike and Gerry is the same discord that’s between any 8 million Scientologists and Gerry.

    It isn’t so much answering many questions that is the goal, but justice. Gerry seeks justice, the Scientologists, Mark, Mike, et al. want injustice. And they lie to get it. The key spot in which justice is needed and sought is with the IRS. (IRS documents.) The fair game engendered by Mark and his fellow Scientologists in their submissions to the IRS and the resulting grant of tax exemption still continues. Mark and Mike could do something about stopping it.

    Years ago Gerry provided his easy steps for Mark and Mike to resolve their difference with him:

     
  4. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Thanks for the basic info. Will be on the look out for anything pertinent.

    IMO, "Discord" is not the issue; needed information not yet provided is the issue.

    It's important to not forget about the missing - withheld - information regarding matters having to do with the IRS, etc.

    While I applaud any truth-telling by Rathbun and Rinder, I also recognize the possibility of a condition of mutual blackmail between Miscavige, Rathbun and Rinder: Things for which they could all be criminally liable.

    More information needs to be made available.

    My opinion at this time is as long as Rathbun and Rinder continue to truth-tell, and continue to change, I'm willing to wait for the eventual opening up about matters that have remained unaddressed.
     
  5. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    I don't know if Gerry would think that waiting in the back of the queue for the 'eventual opening up of matters' is something to be so patient about.
     
  6. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    That's understandable.
     
  7. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

    ''

    David Aden speaking to Anonymous - around 2009 - outside the Washington outfit . . .

    [video=youtube;RdIbTsb5-sI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdIbTsb5-sI&feature=youtu.be[/video]​
     
  8. prosecco

    prosecco Patron Meritorious

    Marty and Mike are both quite open about the fact that they were helping with an FBI investigation which went cold. Think it was discussed on Marty's blog? My understanding is that they had immunity from prosecution, however it's an interesting question; what happens when one cooperates with an investigation that doesn't get to the prosecution stage? Presumably all the statements would be kept on file and stay confidential?

    If it was me, I'd want some assurances before going public.
     
  9. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    That FBI investigation is pretty vague. Perhaps you could provide some details as to what, specifically, the FBI was investigating.
     
  10. prosecco

    prosecco Patron Meritorious

    I don't know any more than what's been on Marty's blog. Think it was about human trafficking?

    Am not sure how to do links, but will try:

    https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/?s=fbi+investigation
     
  11. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    It's been 30 years now but that appears to be a match. :thumbsup:

    I was on Boston staff between 1979-1986.

    I still remember some of the briefings from OSA back then about Michael Flynn and Paulette Cooper whom they characterized as some of the most evil beings in the universe. (these were briefings addressing the full staff)

    I believed them at the time. :duh:
     
  12. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Yes, that's what I recall also.

    The issue here is the IRS., etc.

    Different area. :)
     
  13. RogerB

    RogerB Crusader

    I asked someone who is reliable and who knows the Boston scene . . . the reply:

    A pretty definitive answer, eh?

    R
     
  14. Boojuum

    Boojuum Silver Meritorious Patron

    That's definitely David.

    He's been a GO/OSA guy since 1980 or earlier. He's a seasoned PR guy. I think he was D or AGPR or something like that way back. Note that he didn't say anything stupid in the video.
     
  15. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

  16. Caroline

    Caroline Patron Meritorious

    Thank you very much for the help with these photos!

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    (Hey, Anonymous.)

    I've updated the Operators gallery.

    Even though Gerry is very busy and can’t engage in an ESMB skirmish at this time, I persuaded him to respond to Veda on his blog. Gerry says that his treatment by ESMB’s controlling faction here, as a newbie and ongoing victim of the Scientologists and their collaborators, was cult-level, and he just doesn’t have the time for more of it right now. (Gerry's posting history can probably still be reviewed in the Members Only forum.)

    Gerry's answer to Veda is here: http://gerryarmstrong.ca/archives/1148.
     
  17. Claire Swazey

    Claire Swazey Spokeshole, fence sitter

    Try thinking of it as territorial imperative.
     
  18. Wants2Talk

    Wants2Talk Silver Meritorious Patron

    [video=youtube;-gm7ATqW4p0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gm7ATqW4p0[/video]
    Bit of historical perspective (1984) for new people.
    [video=youtube;3bY_ZEXMai4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bY_ZEXMai4[/video]
    Gerry Armstrong a real hero in my book!
     
  19. Caroline

    Caroline Patron Meritorious

    Apparently Rathbun got the assurance he needed before he went public about Lisa McPherson, and he is still not telling the truth.

    This is from a paper Gerry’s writing about Rathbun’s continuing frame-up of Michael Flynn in Memoirs.

    Any criminal would want assurances before doing the right thing. The documents we are assembling show that the FBI/DOJ entered into the Scientologists' conspiracy and are still there. Gerry discusses this further in his introduction to the Armstrong Op, which I've just now posted: About the Armstrong Op.
     
  20. Wants2Talk

    Wants2Talk Silver Meritorious Patron

    I am still a naive dreamer at heart. I dream of the three guys and their ladies sharing a dinner in Canada...with poutine and beer perhaps!