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Members of the NOI

Discussion in 'Nation of Islam and Related Groups' started by anonkatie, Nov 27, 2010.

  1. anonkatie

    anonkatie Patron with Honors

    Apparently, NOI leadership is propagating the myth that they are just "using the tech", can get trained as auditors, and leave. Thus, they don't care about belief, or Scientology or Hubbard's racism; they are just studying "the tech".

    Pierre Muhammad, NOI, just joined the Tampa Org staff

    Sort of puts paid to the thesis that they are just going to leave.

    Can people contribute any further info about numbers of NOI re: completions as well as who might have joined staff? This will be helpful in the general argument that "you are being sucked in".

    I have been scanning completions lists, but they don't think Dianetics is Scientology so I am looking for things other than Dianetics course completions.
  2. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    Well Marty was going to tell us all about the Nation of Islam's conversion to Dianetics. We should be patient...


    After all, Farrakhan *gets* Ron!

  3. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    I still think there is an industrial-strength popcorn moment coming up in the near future.
  4. anonkatie

    anonkatie Patron with Honors

    Can anyone offer anything helpful to discussion with NOI?

    Their response so far seems to be the following:
    1. Dianetics isn't Scientology
    2. We are only doing Dianetics
    3. Therefore, we don't care what Scientology beliefs, errors are.
    4. We therefore also don't care whether Hubbard was a racist.
    5. It's the same as going to a college that was founded by a racist, we are taking helpful information.
    6. We can learn how to audit in a few courses and then never have to go back to CoS and audit each other for free.

    Any thoughts?
  5. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    I'm not sure that "discussion" with NoI is viable.

    Consider their theology is even more outlandish than LRH's OT3 story, and their people are expected to accept it at the start of their involvement, rather than after years of indoctrination.

    I don't think that rationality is an option here.
  6. Sharone Stainforth

    Sharone Stainforth Silver Meritorious Patron

    Enthetan wrote:

    I'm not sure discussion is viable, period.
  7. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    What happens when a NOI Dianeticist (NOID) gets the clear cog?

    We listen in on their Dianetic session...

    Hey! I be making all this shit up my own damn self!

    As-Salamu Alaykum! That's the Clear Cog!

    This better be the Dianetics Clear Cog and
    not the damn Scientology Clear Cog, you

    (silently pressing security alarm under table)
    Oh no, it's definitely only Dianetics Clear.
    Totally different, brother, I swear!
    A Scientology Clear gets sick all
    the time and can't remember shit!
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2010
  8. Royal Prince Xenu

    Royal Prince Xenu Trust the Psi Corps.

    Can someone please expand the acronym NOI so that this thread has some meaning to the more ignorant among us?
  9. Diskdoc

    Diskdoc Patron


    Nation of Islam.
  10. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    Other helpful acronyms...

    NOR: Nation of Ron

    NOD: Nation of Dave

    NOM: Nation of Marty

    NNOT: Nation of Not OT (NOR, NOD & NOM combined)​

    Ooops, I nattered and I am going to hell. Who or Whatever....
  11. Diskdoc

    Diskdoc Patron

    TLA Violation

    The first three; good TLAs (Three letter acronym). The last one, EEK!, ETLA (Extended three letter acronym).
  12. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


    Yeah, I was in turmoil about adding that extra letter.

    Now I am suffering and deeply regret my foolishness to think I could get away with it.

    Thank you for helping me come to my senses. :D
  13. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    Nation of Islam is getting involved with Dianetics. This thread gives the background.