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Miscavige changes course: All remaining Scientology orgs to go ‘Ideal’ at the same time(Tony Ortega)

Discussion in 'Tony Ortega' started by Enthetan, Jul 30, 2019.

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  1. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    New from Tony Ortega's Underground Bunker

    Miscavige changes course: All remaining Scientology orgs to go ‘Ideal’ at the same time


    “Doing it all simultaneously.” This cryptic slogan showed up at an “Ideal Org Convention” for Canada last week. But it’s becoming clear that this is a message that is being sent to all Scientologists around the world. So what does it mean?

    As unlikely as it sounds, the call is going out that all orgs will become “ideal” at the same time. Beginning in 2003, David Miscavige has been personally appearing at the grand openings of Ideal Orgs, a few each year, and totaling more than 60 now. But now, instead of more openings one or two at a time, Miscavige is calling for the rest of the orgs around the world to go ideal at the same time.

    News of the plan was released at a series of continental conventions this week. The participants in those meetings returned to their home orgs to share the exciting news.

    More at the link

    Gee, I wonder why nobody thought of that before? Just POSTULATE being Ideal, and it will happen!
     
  2. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    From the article:

    With the “Jane Doe” lawsuit targeting him and more coming (we expect the second one to hit this week), Miscavige might not want to show up at a previously announced location. He knows that if he shows up at the Kansas City grand opening, for example, process servers (or worse) could be waiting for him.

    I could just see, in the middle of Miscavige's speech, a helicopter drone swooping down from out of nowhere, and smacking him in the head with a subpoena.
     
  3. Xenu Xenu Xenu

    Xenu Xenu Xenu Patron Meritorious

    Scientology has enough money to finance every "Ideal Org" opening.

    Oh wait... Little Davey never once gave it away. Everyone had to pay and pay.
     
  4. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

    David Miscavige moving into a villa in France to avoid all future subpoenas . . . in Roman Polanski's neighborhood. :coolwink:
     
  5. programmer_guy

    programmer_guy True Ex-Scientologist

    That would be better and more comfortable than a Bluebird RV (like Hubbard did). ;)
     
  6. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    Osama Bin Laden's former villa in Pakistan might be available. Very secure (unless a force of SEALs come calling) in a military town just a kilometer from their military academy.
     
  7. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    I imagine almost everyone still in the CofS who's not a noob can see that this target is completely absurd. It will serve a virtue-signalling purpose as usual, but I would think any local enthusiasm just got stomped on hard, and there will be a great deal more lip service instead.

    Paul
     
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  8. Cat's Squirrel

    Cat's Squirrel Gold Meritorious Patron

    Just trying to imagine how the world would have been different if DM had spent his formative years around Andy Warhol rather than Ron Hubbard ...

    There are two main competing theories concerning this policy from commenters below the line on Tony's article. One is that Miscavige wants to disguise the fact than none of the Ideal Orgs are opening as per schedule, and the other one is that he wants to avoid having to appear at a specific location (to open an Ideal Org) where he could be served with a writ.
     
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  9. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    Little David just gave everyone a target they KNOW is impossible, which guarantees a bunch walking away.
     
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  10. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    He needs to do something so why not something totally insane.

    Does he want it done by the next IAS event?
     
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  11. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    No, by Thursday at 2pm.

    That target is actually easier than this one. . .

    Creating the first Clear by the end of the billion year contract.

    Seriously.
     
  12. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    He doesn't have to be served personally, papers in his sweaty little hand. See https://www.federalrulesofcivilprocedure.org/frcp/title-ii/rule-4-summons/

    I'm not following the comments at Tony's site, but surely one of his legal commenters will clarify.

    Paul
     
  13. Wilbur

    Wilbur Patron Meritorious

    Apparently it's because the spaceship to Target 2 is almost ready. In fact, it only takes about 6 weeks for the spaceship to reach earth at superluminary speeds (reference: OTIII materials), but it has taken several decades for the IAS to collect enough donations to build the nanoo nanoo landing strip sign that can be seen from outside the solar system. The funding was collected by 2001, but per standard COBED materials (Chairman of the Board Executive Directives), the required funding for a project has to be collected 5.4 X over, because 5.4 is the exact number of weeks that it takes to travel to Target 2 by spaceship.

    The spaceship has therefore been scheduled to arrive coincidental with the final Ideal Org completions, at which donations will be solicited for 5.4 X the cost of the rocket fuel to Target 2. The spaceship doesn't actually use rocket fuel: it is powered by the mental charge generated by broken dreams. But that charge can't be measured, and per standard Birthday Game issues every activity must have a MEASURABLE statistic.
     
  14. Dotey OT

    Dotey OT Cyclops Duck of the North - BEWARE

    Has anyone spoken to anyone still in that's been briefed on this, and the spin associated? I'm about to meet with an old friend still in, and I'm going to see what he says. He's never been an active donor, so I'm not sure he'll have much.
     
  15. Dotey OT

    Dotey OT Cyclops Duck of the North - BEWARE

    I just met with my old friend and he didn't have much. What he said was it was the same story from 8 years ago about the ideal orgs. He didn't have any data about the quote simultaneously unquote thing.
     
  16. Dotey OT

    Dotey OT Cyclops Duck of the North - BEWARE

    The more I think about this the more it seems like it's a regging tool. I could just hear it now " we are about to finish all the Orgs, so dig deeper". Isn't this exciting? Wish I had a dollar for everytime I heard a reg say that!
     
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  17. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    They have probably run out of individual fields that have enough assets to strip for a local project so now the target has been generalized into something undefinable like "Clear the planet!" where everyone can be regged and the money can be disappeared into some nebulous slush fund. That is probably where this was always headed. After Teegeeack is cleared then the next planet and the rest of the galuxy need to be cleared and those will all need Ideal Orgs, Safe Environment (read: Lawyer) Funds and Ideal space ships to get there - the grift never ever ends.

    I don't know where they go from here. The mark has been drained and everyone else catches on too quickly.

    "The public knows us by our MEST mess." LRH

    "Think big or your brain their bank accounts don't shrink." LRH
     
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