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Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by mcrathbun, Feb 7, 2009.

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  1. mcrathbun

    mcrathbun New Member

  2. byte301

    byte301 Crusader

    Wow. So you're Marty Rathbun?
  3. Good twin

    Good twin Floater

    Welcome to ESMB Marty!

    Your site is nice. The offer is impressive. Best of luck to you in life on the outside! :thumbsup:

    Can we entice you to tell a story or two? :drama:
  4. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Wow. Welcome. :)

    Yes, indeed. Please tell a tale or two. There's quite a bunch of stuff written about you online. Feel free to correct any misinformation you think we might have.

  5. Rae

    Rae Patron with Honors

    a lot to tell..

    Welcome Mark! :wow:
    I'm sure we are all anxious to hear more from you! There must be some VERY good stories you can tell!:prettyplease:

  6. sallydannce

    sallydannce Gold Meritorious Patron

    Wow! Welcome, welcome. How times are changin'!

    So nice to have you here Marty. Hope you are doing great and enjoying the real world.

  7. nexus100

    nexus100 Gold Meritorious Patron

    My present position is that the COS tech is designed to lead to problems and appeals to those who want most to rely on other sources for understanding. It would be nice to know what your position is with regard to that technology and what you use "from a variety of sources" in your techniques. That is de facto, if unstated, board policy.
  8. Been Done Had

    Been Done Had Patron with Honors

    All I can say is welcome (uhh, sir?)

    Please feel free to communicate. Anything.

    Best wishes and success with your new life and any endeavors you are undertaking. It's a hard road but so worth it.

  9. Iknowtoomuch

    Iknowtoomuch Gold Meritorious Patron

    I don't think anyone can blame me for not believing this is actually Marty.

    But if it is, I hope you have a good life from here on out. Although I'd like (not that I may get them) some answers from you at some point. That is if DM didn't pay you off to keep your mouth shut of course.
  10. MarkWI

    MarkWI Patron Meritorious

    Welcome Marty!!!
    So many speculated about you in the last years. From you being out on a "special mission for David Miscavige" to being death. I am very happy to know you are alive and out of church control! :happydance:

    Two questions for you come to my mind right now :nervous: :
    1. Was Barbara Schwarz your wife?
    2. How much money the Church gave to David Mayo settle with him? :gossip:

    Gossip aside, WELCOME!!!


  11. Div6

    Div6 Crusader

    Looks legit to me. Easy enough to find out...just take him up on his offer.

    The one thing I will say though is that whoever photoshopped that image did not do a very good job. The catch lights in the eyes are one obvious clue, and
    the teeth being the brightest point is another. Would be nice to have a date when it was taken as well....
  12. teadreamer

    teadreamer Patron

    Hi Marty

    Your offer is really impressive. I wish you success. For now, welcome to the site.

  13. Iknowtoomuch

    Iknowtoomuch Gold Meritorious Patron

    It seems that this is really Marty.

    Marty, could you please explain how you feel about the current church and it's activities. I'm very curious how you feel about it. If you're willing of course.
  14. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor


    "Movin' on up a little higher
    Mark "Marty" Rathbun's Place

    I was a member of the Sea Organization for twenty-seven years. I learned how to audit and troubleshoot virtually any technical problem at every level of Scientology. For years prior to leaving the Church I was regularly called upon by its top-ranking members to resolve its toughest and, in many instances, most high profile cases.

    This could be read as "seriuosly brainwashed and trained to seriously bainwash others" in, and with, the seriously dangerous procedures developed by the Grand Mindfucker Ron Hubbard.

    Having dug myself out of the dark pit where many who leave the Church land, I began lending a hand to others similarly situated.

    How long have you been out?
    What are your current views on the workability of the "tech", serious problems you see in the "theory" and practice of scientology (including "dianetics".
    What was it about your experiences that lead you to call it a "dark pit" from which you "dug yourself out". How did you dig yourself out?

    A lot of folks seem to be suffering from the inculcated idea that once they depart or cease to slavishly follow every arbitrary dictate they automatically forfeit any spiritual gains they may have attained along the road. Natively conscientious as most beings are, such an evaluation can begin a pernicious dwindlng spiral of self-invalidation and unhappiness.

    I understand this phenomenon and the internal dichotomies extant within the organization that bring it about. In the process of reversing the decline in myself and in others certain lessons were learned that might be of some assistance to those who have experienced the same.

    What do you say to the suggestion that the best thing may be to let people finally sort themselves out, instead of offering yourself as as expert/facilitator in their personal psychological journey.?

    I offer a simple program of rehabilitation of previously recognized abilities and education on universal truths and principles of spiritual growth. I do not offer a substitute for Scientology nor am in competition with the Church. I am only offering to share all the skills I have learned – from a wide variety of sources - to help those in need who once formally participated in Scientology but who now hold no hope nor intention of ever seeking help from the Church.

    What methods do you use? Do you use an e-meter? Do you use scientology jargon (e.g. "ARC breaks, earlier similar, as--is, flows,")

    My services are peformed in a relaxing, bayside environment with unlimited space and fresh South Texas air. Reasonably priced accommodations – which include plenty of Southern hospitality – are conveniently located within a short, pleasant walking distance.

    My services cost whatever you think they are worth, within your means, after completion. I ask that you pay me one-half of whatever you determine that value to be when you head back home. Then, if after a month you believe your original estimation was correct you can send me the other half, or not. It is entirely up to you. "

    What benchmark amount of money per hour do you think would leave you feeling that you were not adequately compensated for your time/services?
  15. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Clue to what? "Photoshopped" implies falsity. That's a 1.8 MB 3000 x 2000 px jpeg, pretty damn big if someone is trying to pass off a fake of some kind. And kinda big for a website too! Maybe some nice person would provide a smaller one, like 75 KB or something would be more suitable. I guess it should be e-mailed to Marty, for copyright reasons. :)

    The colour could be better, but that is not why it's there. I assume it was taken in natural light late afternoon and not adjusted at all beyond maybe simple cropping.

    Last edited: Feb 7, 2009
  16. Iknowtoomuch

    Iknowtoomuch Gold Meritorious Patron

    The picture looks authentic to me.
    I was wondering earlier about the OP...and it seems to be confirmed that this really is Marty.
  17. Div6

    Div6 Crusader

    I'm not implying falsity...prolly taken with a simple point and shoot. The catchlights in the eyes don't appear to line up with the natural source of light. Could be fill flash from the camera, I don't know. And yes, anyone with web savvy would have shrunk it down.

    Of course the true test is, "tell us about your marriage to Barbera Schwartz."

    Last edited: Feb 7, 2009
  18. byte301

    byte301 Crusader

    Yeah, I'd like to know about Barbara too.:D

    And about the "special deal" with DM and the IRS.
  19. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Indeed. :)

    No, he really does seem to be legit, and I'm basing that on more than what has been posted.

  20. Div6

    Div6 Crusader

    Oh yeah! Good one! Tell us, on that fateful day when you and DM walked in to 1111 Constitution Avenue...what evidence exactly did you blackmail Fred Goldberg (the IRS Commisioner with)? Some say it was child porn malfeasance on the part of a key IRS exec. Any truth to that?