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Discussion in 'Stories From Inside Scientology' started by Alan, Jan 6, 2007.

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  1. Alan

    Alan Gold Meritorious Patron


    According to Edith Hamilton in Mythology the source of all misfortune was Pandora's curiosity.

    "The gods presented her with a box into which each had put something harmful, and forbade her ever to open it.

    Then they sent her to Epimetheus, who took her gladly although Prometheus had warned him never to accept anything from Zeus.

    He took her, and afterward when that dangerous thing, a woman, was his, he understood how good his brother's advice had been.

    For Pandora, like all women, was possessed of a lively curiosity. She had to know what was in the box.

    One day she lifted the lid - and out flew plagues innumerable, sorrow and mischief for mankind.

    In terror Pandora clapped the lid down, but too late. One good thing, however, was there - was Hope.

    It was the only good the casket had held among the many evils, and it remains to this day mankind's sole comfort in misfortune."


    As you begin the journey of setting and pursuing your goals – you collide with a two-edge sword effect.

    You set new goals with expectations of handling certain long term chronic problems.

    If you have lacked money most of your life – your goals will include increasing your wealth.

    If you have lived a lonely life – your goals will include making and having friends.

    If you lack self esteem, self respect and you had to put up with a great deal of ridicule – your goals will tend to reflect becoming famous, becoming more powerful, etc.

    If you lacked literacy, knowledge, people handling skills or you lacked awareness – your goals will tend to be in the area of regaining knowledge.

    In setting your goals you are setting the desire for future wants – but at the same time you are opening your own Pandora’s Box of what has been holding you back in life, what you are fighting within yourself, what self-destructive and self-sabotaging habit patterns you have, what self-destructive and self-sabotaging belief systems you have employed and still are employing, what self-destructive and self-sabotaging actions or great harm you are liable to cause if you have great power and wealth.

    What are the plagues that get unleashed?

    Out of control rage, anger, envy, greed, jealousy, sexuality, gambling, promiscuity, alcohol and drug addiction, insatiable appetites for food, sex, pornography, insane risk taking, etc.

    As you can observe the setting and pursuit of your dreams, goals and aspirations is indeed a two-edged sword.


    Back when I was 13 years old I read a book by Emile Coue that explained the power of knowledge and the secrets of getting knowledge, that getting knowledge was the basis of all wealth and power.

    This book laid out a step by step plan of how to attain and get whatever you wanted in life – the secret was; get the knowledge and know-how.

    The secret plan was idiot simple, it was: Every day, in every way, I am getting better and better.

    My goal was simple: TO GET KNOWLEDGE.

    My plan was idiot simple: Each day, in every way, I would get better and better.

    For several years my life and self grew steadily better, my knowledge of life got better and better and more and more – it was a self fulfilling cycle. The more knowledge I got the more knowledge I could get.

    Then at age 24 a strange, terrifying, weird set of occurrences happened to me in the pursuit and journey to attain my Dreams, Goals and Aspirations.

    My Dreams, Goals and Aspirations were shanghaied – consequently so was I.

    It did not happen overnight, it took many, many years.

    How it happened was so subtle that I was not aware of it taking place for a considerable time. What was worse I had so much time, effort, money and life force particles invested in the trap, I did not see how I could escape the trap I had gotten my self into.

    Yet, this may be the most valuable lesson I ever had, though it has taken most of my life to undo its ramifications.

    Hopefully because of what I discovered and how it was done – it can help you dodge the seduction, traps and pitfalls.

    It is a journey of how my own ambitions, (greed) competitiveness (envy) and desperations (jealousies) to succeed led me to be blind sided into giving my power, energy and intelligence to the unknown dark side.

    Perhaps good things come from narcisistic or evil intentions……wars often develop great benefits for peace, things used to destroy things lead to instruments to create great ideas and great benefits to mankind.

    One of my basic problems was all my life I have had a tremendous amount of energy – energy that needed positive outlets.

    Luckily I was able to corral my energy and direct it in a positive manner – but before I did, my boundless energy led me into several near disastrous situations.


    In the intense pursuit of my Dreams, Goals and Aspirations I needed desperately to develop a way to role play my actions. Just as I had learned how to be a professional football player – I needed life skills to successfully inter-relate with others in business and personal relationships.

    It was in this intense search for these skills that I came across Scientology.

    L Ron Hubbard in his early book Dianetics wrote:

    “Acknowledgment is made to fifty thousand years of thinking men without whose speculations and observations the creation and construction of Dianetics would not have been possible. Credit in particular is due to:

    “Anaxagoras, Thomas Paine, Aristotle, Thomas Jefferson, Socrates, René Descartes, Plato, James Clerk Maxwell, Euclid, Charcot, Lucretius, Herbert Spencer, Roger Bacon, William James, Francis Bacon, Sigmund Freud, Isaac Newton, van Leeuwenhoek, Cmdr. Joseph Thompson (MC) USN, William A. White, Voltaire, Will Durant, Count Alfred Korzybski, and my instructors in atomic and molecular phenomena, mathematics and the humanities at George Washington University and at Princeton.”

    With this acknowledgement I believed I was joining a group dedicated to evolving mankind’s knowledge and skills.

    I studied for a few months in Melbourne, Australia 1961 -1962, and went in August, 1962 to Saint Hill, England to study with L. Ron Hubbard.

    It was at Saint Hill that I met 100’s of students that had helped over the preceding 12 years develop the exercises, drills and procedures of Hubbard’s work.

    I quickly rose in the ranks to become one of the leading researchers and deliverers of the Technology under development.

    It was an exciting time sharing the research with these dedicated people as well as learning how the different parts of the Technology had come into being, who had originated it, where they had got their ideas from originally.

    There I was at the tender age of 25, in 1962 it was my privilege and honor to meet, work with and share with masterful top processors, trainers and coaches in the world.

    There were 85 of these masters attending Saint Hill at that time, they came from many fields.
  2. Alan

    Alan Gold Meritorious Patron


    What was so wonderful about these masters was their willingness to freely share their new discoveries with each other. Between us each had in excess of 5,000 clients. This was quite a vast undertaking, more grassroots than anything else.

    Each of the 85 masters probably spent several millions of dollars each, over the years in their pursuit of knowledge, truth, study, training, coaching, processing and research.

    What was in play was a giant network of very dedicated, on purpose team gradiently discovering the secrets of how to unlock the truth and knowledge of our spiritual, mental and human potential.

    We can estimate that several 100’s of millions of dollars has been invested to uncover their knowledge and discoveries.

    Most of the masters were in their 40’s in the beginning of the 1960’s. Make no mistake, each of them was a giant, unbelievable brave, incredibly persistent, thoroughly dedicated.

    They each pursued their goal with a passion and zeal that lasted every working moment of their life (even their sleep moments, most likely). Any major discoveries would be shared by the team. Sadly to say, today almost all of that team has died. Much of their incredible wisdom and knowledge went with them. Luckily, we have almost all their secrets and knowledge which they so freely shared.

    The team of masters consisted of a former priest, 2 former rabbi’s, 2 former Buddhist monks, several ministers of other religions, 2 professors, 2 C.E.O of Fortune 500 companies, 2 writers, several teachers, several champion athletes, 2 actors, 2 fashion models and several top musicians.

    Jack Horner a former actor discovered and developed the ‘repetitive process procedures’, it took him 7 years to fully prove out this procedure, testing it over several thousand client hours – millions of dollars were spent by these clients – yet we can teach a person how to do this in a couple of hours.

    Gordon Bell in early 1963 discovered the subject of by-passed charge and where it stemmed from, he also put together the material that is known as the grades.

    I had dinner with Gordon Bell that evening in during which he shared with me his discoveries. From those discoveries I developed the first Correction Lists.

    List 1 was designed to handle UPSETS caused by by-passed-charge. The second List became List 4. The purpose of which was to handle by-passed-charge caused by wrong answers and wrong items.

    Another discovery I originated was the Good and Bad Indicators – these indicators stemmed from my studies of the Stock Market. Many other students contributed to this including Hubbard.

    Ava and Charles Berner, professors of English discovered and developed much of the study technology we use, they had spent almost 40 years each in their research – research that had spanned many of the foremost educators down through time - we teach what they discovered in 3 weeks.

    Richard Steeves, Jan and Richard Halpern discovered and developed the procedures that are the forerunners of our SPIEPIR technology. This technology has been in development for 52 years – 100’s of thousand of hours and millions of dollars have been spent developing these procedures – we teach how to do it in a few days.

    Hubbard’s son L. Ron Hubbard Jr., developed the forerunner to our Presence drills, these were taken from Buddhist Meditating Exercises that were 2000 years old.

    Possibly their greatest power and influence came in conjunction with their wisdom, knowledge and know-how was their immensely influential direct networks.

    Almost all of these prime movers and shakers over the last 50 years were connected to receiving coaching and processing either directly or indirectly from these masters.

    It must be understood that these masters weren’t just masters in these fields but in other fields as well. They were philosophers in the fullest sense.

    Philosophers study life and all the aspects of life. A true philosopher has not only studied life but has lived life to its fullest.
  3. Alan

    Alan Gold Meritorious Patron


    Living life is not just the understanding of words or articulation of words but it is action of living, the action of relationship, the action of action, the result by reaction to an action.

    It is knowledge applied. The more accurate the knowledge, the more accurate the action. The more accurate the action, the more successful the outcome, the more successful and happy is the applicant.

    Each of these masters underwent incredible attacks, incredible attempts to destroy their credibility, ridicule and continuous attempts to destroy their livelihood. Almost all these masters toiled in anonymity. It was a work in process. Each knew they had found pieces of the puzzle. Each knew they were very close to getting the entire puzzle solved.

    Almost all of these prime movers and shakers over the last 50 years were connected to receiving coaching and processing either directly or indirectly from these masters.

    It must be understood that these masters weren’t just masters in these fields but in other fields as well. They were philosophers in the fullest sense.

    Philosophers study life and all the aspects of life. A true philosopher has not only studied life but has lived life to its fullest.

    Living life is not just the understanding of words or articulation of words but it is action of living, the action of relationship, the action of action, the result by reaction to an action.

    It is knowledge applied. The more accurate the knowledge, the more accurate the action. The more accurate the action, the more successful the outcome, the more successful and happy is the applicant.

    Each of these masters underwent incredible attacks, incredible attempts to destroy their credibility, ridicule and continuous attempts to destroy their livelihood. Almost all these masters toiled in anonymity. It was a work in process. Each knew they had found pieces of the puzzle. Each knew they were very close to getting the entire puzzle solved.

    The common denominator of these masters was their love of people, love of knowledge, love of study, love of application and love of helping people get better. The greatest loss was their inability to find students of their same level of dedication. The biggest killer of their ways of life – their students would get pieces of the knowledge and think that had all the answers. Consequently, they couldn’t find anybody to carry on their work.

    They only asked four things of their students; to study, to practice, to coach and process others. Between them, they probably trained in access of 10,000 potential applied philosophers and yet, for some reason or another most of these applied philosophers have quit.

    Their greatest betrayal came when L. Ron Hubbard stated in a narcistic Policy letter, Keeping Scientology Working, dated 7 February, 1965, that he and only he discovered the exercises, drills and procedures.

    At the time though we were shocked by this Policy Letter, but at least the tapes, books and bulletins still had their acknowledgements of the different discoverers of the exercises, drills and procedures.

    Sadly, over the next 20 years all mention of these originators and sources were erased by Hubbard’s people who also set about attempting to destroy their reputations, this was done by false accusations, vilification and false destructive stories about them.


    All of us knew that we were walking on the shoulders of giants and that most of the knowledge and wisdom we studied was more than 2000 years old. A lot of the knowledge had been lost but has now been rediscovered.

    Giants such as Confucius, Buddha, Jesus, Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle span many thousands of years. Much of their knowledge and application has proven to work for thousands of years and are the cornerstones for most branches of today’s education.

    Plato was a student of Socrates.

    Aristotle was a student of Plato and Socrates, he is considered possibly the greatest Teachers/Mentor/Coach in history, and one of his students was Alexander the Great.

    Confucius could be said to be the Father of study. For he is believed to be the first professional adult education teacher and lived 571 BC.

    The first course Confucius taught was “The Study of Study”.

    “A modern scholar of Confucianism, Tu Mei Wing, describes Confucian spirituality as an attempt to live the Mandate of Heaven in each moment of daily, ordinary life, and to thereby become co-creators of the world -- more specifically a utopian world of harmony and peace.

    Tu illustrates the Confucius taught relationships between Heaven and Earth as a series of concentric circles.


    At the center is humanity -- individual selves whose task is to continually grow in their ability to live the Mandate of Heaven, or the Way, the Tao.
    This involves self- discipline and learning. The self is always evolving, or growing: the self is transformation.

    The circle of the self is embedded within the circle of the community -- the web of relations which are the context for human living and the vehicle for self-transformation.

    The community is embedded within the physical world -- nature -- which is both our home and the stuff we are made of.

    Finally, nature is embedded within the realm of heaven, and the way of heaven - the Mandate of Heaven -- is the ultimate source of human movement toward heaven.

    Like a magnet pulling gently, the Mandate of Heaven is what sparks our growth and action.

    Confucius’ project was to teach people, or to remind them of the nature of their relatedness to heaven, and so to all others, and to the earth. Although Confucianism is widely regarded as a ‘non-religious’ philosophy, Confucius understood himself to be carrying out a divinely-ordained task. Through his teaching, he hoped to bring heaven to earth, which meant to establish the way of heaven as the way of human living -- a way of harmony and peace.”
    (Jill K. McAllister.)

    What is amazing about all these philosophers is they knew each person was unique and what was right for some was not right for others.

    The other common denominator about all these great philosophers is; they taught the attributes of God, the Supreme Being. The common denominator of their teachings was to bring their students closer to God. The pursuit of truth was the senior overriding goal.

    The prime end product of education was to bring more truth on a subject which leads to a better person, a better civilization.

    Almost all of these great philosophers were vilified by those in power at that time. In many cases the discoveries lead to their death, as well as the death of their followers. For the greatest problem of a new discovery is it often makes those who are in power wrong.

    Life has always been somewhat cheap on planet earth.

    The pursuit of knowledge and wisdom often led to a person’s demise. Plus the pursuit of truth and knowledge could be hazardous to your health and well being. It should also be noted that nearly all of these great philosophers were omni-sovereign beings.

    Definition: OMNI-SOVEREIGNTY:

    The ability to be sovereign and omni-sovereign which includes being willing to be responsible for co-creating with and helping others reach and maintain their sovereignty and omni-sovereignty. This includes being willing to be omni-responsible for all sides of any game and the positive players and negative opposition that are part of all games of life.

    Definition: SOVEREIGNTY:

    The state of being able to be the owner or supreme power capable of creating, owning and being the controller of your own space, own time, own energy, own production, own products, own objects, own subjects and own universe.

    Total sovereignty over one’s own universe would include the ability to span and permeate the spectrums of the mood scale, but would also include the ability to naturally emanate love, warmth, positiveness, validation, appreciation, knowledge, truth, trust, honesty and, above all, the ability to honor one’s own Standards, Codes, Virtues, Integrity, and Principles.

    I am now 71 years old; I have spent the last 30 years getting my own dreams, goals, ideas, aspirations, sovereignty and some omni-sovereignty back.

    I have helped (I hope) with the help of many others to free almost 40,000 people from the Hubbardian trap.

    I expect to be vilified, falsely accused and harassed by Hubbard’s people. As they have done continuously in the past; spending as much as $1,200,000 a year in fees to private investigators. But even that made me stronger, gave me more knowledge. It led me to make friends with local law enforcement officers, the FBI, the IRS, the various State Attorney Generals Offices and various other government agencies.

    These are often the type of price one pays in the attempt to follow ones dreams and goals.
  4. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor

    Thanks for this very interesting post!

    I am still " One of Hubbards people" sort of.

    In this write up you don't mention much about Hubbards contributions.
    Could you tell us more?
  5. Alan

    Alan Gold Meritorious Patron


    I would like to unsubmerge the rest of the contributors to the Tech.

    As you can observe there has been a tremendous amount of teamwork to evolve the Tech over a long period of time.

    It is important to run out the earlier Tech's, as they will stall a persons case gain - just as much as a bad Scio session will.

    Training and processing has been around for a very, very, very long time.

    After-all once upon a time we managed to co-exist.......all ruds - for all times in all universes need to be in to do that.

    Scio is just a lock incident in relation to the vast history of training and processing that exists earlier.

    Running out the then Scio's or their equivalents produces amazing insights and gains.

    There are the who's and there are the workable processes.....apples and oranges.

    I wished you had asked me to tell you more about Horner, Bell, Nibs Hubbard or Chuck Berner.......LRH you have heard plenty of...:)

  6. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    I'd love to hear more about Nibs!!

    What was he like? Did he understand the tech at all? Did you work with him?
  7. Oingo Boingo

    Oingo Boingo Patron


    I just wanted to take a brief moment to thank you for sharing this with us. It gives not only a history but the perspective of the individual in relation to the timeline, which is important. Plus, the way you've laid it out without a lot of embellishment and dev-t makes it a fine read.

    It's well known that LRH absorbed the works of others in an almost vampiric fashion and then disavowed and persecuted his fellow contributors. Thing is, that his work would have had, I think, much more "first glance" validity (even if many consider the overall works to be invalid, but that's another issue) if he had kept the "team" aspect. One has to think about all the scientific works out there that were compiled and offered by "teams". No one person has been responsible for some of the greater achievements in this world; it took a "team" to discover insulin, it took a "team" to successfully split the atom and so forth. In the end it doesn't matter if it's SCN tech or the atom that's the subject at hand, the fact is, that many believe that the more people work on a topic or project, the more safeguards there are in the development of the final product, since there's that many more people that the reasoning and research have to pass through in order to pass muster. To be as objective as possible in this opinion, if LRH hadn't tried to grab all the glory himself via cutting all the contributors out, perhaps he wouldn't have made so many glaring errors and followed so many wrong indicators as he stole the work and then tried to expand on things that only the originators themselves knew in their sleep, inside and out.

    Perhaps I'm over-explaining myself here, but I hope you can see what I mean.
  8. Alan

    Alan Gold Meritorious Patron


    Yes, I get what you mean! : - )

    Someone I respect greatly just posted this:

    I will not mention the name of the poster, but what is said is what needs to restored in all of us:

    "Scn had and presumably still has the potential to make a big difference in individual lives, when it's delivered with heart, and if it had been regarded as a gift instead of a commodity, if it had been treated with gratitude instead of voracious greed, if its staff and clientele were regarded as valued, irreplaceable immortal beings instead of as disposable slaves and marks, we could all have had professional lives, retirements, job satisfaction, and some time in the sun instead of the galleys and the mines."

  9. Alan

    Alan Gold Meritorious Patron


    Nib's worked for me for several months in 1969.

    He was a brilliant man.

    He truly understood the basics of the Tech.

    But, on the subject of LRH he was psychotic.

    He had reasons to be.

    His feud with LRH basically stemed from LRH trapping him in Scio.

    Nib's stated to me all he wanted to do was get some life experience as he had been trapped in Scio., since he was a child.

    This so enraged LRH that he set about destroying Nib's life.....Nib's was tough - he fought back.......LRH never forgave him.

    Nib's just wanted to be charge of his own life, his own dreams, his own future, his own space, his own energy and his own objects. (Which are part of the basic goals of Scio: The restoration of a beings own self determinism.)

    Quentin poor guy had the same PTP.

    A tragedy really.

  10. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor

    I wished you had asked me to tell you more about Horner, Bell, Nibs Hubbard or Chuck Berner.......LRH you have heard plenty of...

    Please say more. There are very few who comment on such matters.

    Its problematical for those interested in the history. Hubbards writings and those of COS are clearly flawed. Those from antagonists are suspect. By definition you are in that group.

    Ideally we would like reports from pro tech scientologists. That too is problematical. They are mostly full on with KSW 1, and so on. They don't sit well on for example statements that power processes were creted by John M.

    Those who don't understand history are destined to repeat it. So the saying goes.

    So time form place and event.

    I'd rather see the interaction of Hubbard with those you cite.

    There are not many left who can document this.

    Pat Krenik has a forum to collect such information. In since 51. Jana
    never says much, sadly.
  11. Alan

    Alan Gold Meritorious Patron


    One of the most difficult things to do is report accurately.

    For example: I and several other Scio's had dinner with Chuck and Ava Berner at the Forrest Row Hotel, it was June 1964, the night before Chuck and Ava were to meet with LRH to go over this new discovery they made to do with study.

    We were all enthralled with what they had discovered.

    Imagine the shock we had when LRH told us in a the lecture that night that he had made a momentous discovery in the field of study.

    The data he gave was almost word for word with what the Berner's had discussed with us the previous night.

    There was no mention of the Berner's who were in the audience.

    They were devastated.

    What made me sick was I made LRH right to do this......I did not support the Berner's.....I simply went elsewhere.

    I put my own survival above my honor......what a price I was to pay for that.

    Not only me but all of us.......for I believe that is the moment that LRH went to the dark-side.

    That was also the last real lecture on GPM's. It ended mid lecture -abruptly - then he flipped and began to talk about the study tech.

    I realize LRH was dichotomous, but so are we all....that is what the GPM Tech was supposed to handle.

  12. jodie

    jodie Patron with Honors

    Thanks, Alan

    Really appreciate you posting this. This is exactly what is so valuable - reading experiences from Wise Elders :) - helps with putting everything into context. I was one of the people you helped many years ago - we had a brief interaction, and many things have since happened to me, including being destroyed utterly, and then rising from the ashes to recreate something new.

    I am so glad to see a space where ex-members can talk about all aspects of their experiences, including the good parts, and talk tech without getting mocked. (Or mocked up ;-) )

    - jodie
  13. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    Why did Nibs recant? Do you know the circumstances behind this?

    Did you meet Quentin? From all reports he was a gentle soul although completely unhappy.

    What is your opinion of his death? Murder, suicide, accident?
  14. Alan

    Alan Gold Meritorious Patron

    Nib's recanted in an effort to heal the breach between him and LRH.

    Yes, I knew Quentin quite well.

    He audited me a few times......very badly I might add.

    He just did not want to be there.....he was trapped into doing something he did not want to do.

    He wanted to be a pilot.

    Murder, suicide? I don't honestly know.

    He had attempted to commit suicide before on the ship.

  15. UMike

    UMike Patron with Honors

    I distinctly recall the evening that everyone at my mission in Los Angeles received the news about Quentins suicide. The staff members were surprisingly honest and candid about it, which I appreciated.
    The feeling in the air was sort of "Let's confront it-Not pretend it didn't happen- and move on.."
    ....which is very "scientology" as many of you know all to well...

    No doubt this must have been atypical. I suppose that upper management
    was caught off guard and didn't have time to spin the story. thats my guess anyway.

  16. KMomma

    KMomma Patron

    Or could they have been covering up Quentin being murdered by saying he committed suicide? Lead everyone astray. From everything that I've read the Church goes to extreme lengths to protect themselves from bad PR. It's strange that they would be so candid about a Hubbard committing suicide.
  17. UMike

    UMike Patron with Honors

    My mind just didn't go there Kmomma. No reason to suspect it at all.
    It was a different time.
    Scientology was a hell of a lot of fun for us mission public(s). We were shielded and protected from any of the Org weirdness and Maciavellian practices.

  18. UMike

    UMike Patron with Honors

  19. Oingo Boingo

    Oingo Boingo Patron

    You know, it's really sad to me when I see the kids get caught up in crap like this. Everyone should be entitled to their own destinies. I know only too well the calls of having to be true to the legacy, protect the family name, don't drag it through the mud, blah, blah, blah...

    I lived it. Pain was the name of the game.

    To be really great, you have to accept your kids as they are. Have to let them learn and grow as they were meant and destined to. You have to be ready for it and support that, your kid(s) may not want the path you choose for them, so what do you do? You can pull an LRH and try to force 'em into a mold, make 'em conform and make 'em miserable, in which case they'll wind up probably hatin' you for the rest of their lives, or you can give immediate support, discuss and work things through.

    Isn't that what the whole SCN experience was, in part, supposed to be about, yeah? Lots of comm, ARC... good vibes, man. I mean, if my kid came home, with something as mild as a tattoo or as extreme as a "coming out" thing, what to do? Well, you ain't gonna change the core of the kid, so deal with what you're being handed. Have that long discussion, have the sit down, cripes... go out to dinner and have a long chat. My understanding of LRH, is that he never had, nor was inclined, to take the time to work anything out. He laid down the law. The edicts came down from the top and that was it, man. It boggles the mind that none of the Hubbard kids simply went totally postal, especially with the reported access to weaponry they had.

    I think if you ever needed a model of how power can blind, corrupt and warp, you need look no further than the instance of Quentin and LRH's dynamic as father and son. Sad thing.

    However, I'm used to lookin for that silver lining, and for me, when I read about Quentin and LRH, it just makes me love mine that much more, y'know? So, I suppose there's a lesson for everyone from LRH in that. For him, it was a hard lesson learned, although I understand that his reaction was very much that of "He let the family and the name down" (and boy, I've heard THAT one before!), but to me, that's even more of a lesson, really.
  20. Alan

    Alan Gold Meritorious Patron

    Lucky are your children to have your levels of love and understanding!:D

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