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OSA and The Children of God.

Discussion in 'Office of Special Affairs' started by Feral, Aug 29, 2010.

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  1. Telepathetic

    Telepathetic Gold Meritorious Patron

    This is the letter that was written by his step father after R. Rodriguez committed the murder/ suicide:

    Dear Family,

    3. We love you very much. You are in our prayers. We have some sad news to share with you. It is about Pete (Davidito), our son. (You might know him as Ricky.) Please do stop a minute now to claim the keys of faith, peace and grace, as this is shocking news. I will explain the situation in brief, although we do not know all the details at this time.

    4. Pete had been living in Tucson for the past several months, where he had an apartment and a job as an electrician. Recently Gabe and Amy made a trip to California and while there they called him and he seemed quite happy to hear from them, the conversation was positive, and he commented that he would like to see them sometime.

    5. A few days ago Angela (Joy)‚ a Family member who lived with us for many years‚ who was visiting in Tucson, and who knew Pete very well, called him and asked to have dinner with him, knowing that he had responded positively to Gabe and Amy's call. The situation is still being investigated, but it looks like, after dinner, they went to his apartment, where Pete killed her. He then drove to California where he took his own life. His body was found Saturday night [Jan.8] by the police in California.

    6. We know the Lord is in control, and nothing can happen except He allows it, so we can trust that He will bring good from this tragedy.

    7. As you might recall, Pete has threatened violence against Mama and me. However, when he left our Home in Portugal years ago, he was positive; he wanted to continue in the Family as a missionary, and did so for a few months. It was only after he had contact with some extremely vocal vindictive detractors that he became so negative. (This process that happens to those who leave new religious movements and become apostates is explained in "None of These Things Move Me.")

    8. If you could please take some time to pray for the following, we'd be very thankful:

    — For all the Family members who knew and loved Angela, that they'll have grace and faith when they hear this news.

    — For Angela's relatives in their time of grief.

    — For Elixir, Pete's former mate—for peace of mind and heart for her‚ for stability and faith.

    — That the Lord will bring about victories through this terrible tragedy.

    — That our Husband will help us all to understand that the spiritual warfare has intensified and that we must do all we can to keep ourselves spiritually prepared.

    — That our vindictive former members, who will undoubtedly try to blame this on Mama and the Family‚ will realize that they have played a part in this sad situation through their negative influence on Pete and that they will reflect upon it.

    — For Mama, Techi and me. The Lord has given us miraculous grace‚ and we know it's a result of the keys of mercy and the undefeatable weapon of praise.

    9. Thank you very much! We are depending on your key-filled prayers!

    Much love in our Husband,

    Peter


    Does this sound familiar?

    TP
     
  2. AnonKat

    AnonKat Crusader

    just adding a post of relevance to this thread.

    http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/20...n-the-anniversary-of-jonestown/#comment-91180

    lunamoth | November 19, 2010 at 5:24 pm | Reply Wikipedia puts the network’s creation as post-Jonestown, which itself was in 1978.

    RJ | November 19, 2010 at 10:28 pm | Reply I wouldn’t accept anything Wikipedia says as the ultimate truth.

    I know for a fact that in the mid-70′s before Peoples Temple that Ted Patrick was operating in the area with a group of deprogrammers who were funded by Martin Orne, Jolly West and Margaret Singer all former CIA assets involved in Mk Ultra or Artichoke.

    Also there is much evidence of Government involvement and support of Peoples Temple at various levels and that it wasn’t really considered a “cult” until it moved to Guyana and asked for asylum in the Soviet Union.

    Something the the State Department was ordered to prevent at all costs.

    So the scene was much more complicated than the Anti-Culties like to present it.

    Just a word of warning lest we fall into the same trap ourselves in attempting to make invidious connections.

    Also there is compelling evidence that the vast majority of the residents did not simply drink the Kool-Aid and that they were either injected with it, forced to drink it at gun point or were simply shot.

    Something that isn’t mentioned much either is that many of the adherents were drugged with thorazine and other psychiatric drugs if they were unwilling to comply with Jone’s insane orders.

    So there was a lot more to it than a bunch of people mostly of color falling for the insane dictates of a mad man.

    Not to mention the fact that once they arrived at the compound they were trapped there and had no means of escape.

    Cat Daddy | November 20, 2010 at 12:11 am | Reply http://www.internetcult.com/FREECOG/encyclopedia.htm

    “FREECOG was the first organized “anti-cult” group,[citation needed] formed in large part in response to the total commitment required by the Children of God. One of the founders of FREECOG is Ted Patrick, widely considered the “Father of Deprogramming Deprogramming refers to actions that attempt to force a person to abandon allegiance to a religious, political, economic, or social group. Methods and practices typically involve violent kidnapping and coercion. Similar actions, when done without force, are called “exit counseling”… [cont.]“.[citation needed]

    FREECOG accused the Children of God of brainwashing Mind control refers to a process in which a group or individual “systematically uses unethically manipulative methods to persuade others to conform to the wishes of the manipulator(s), often to the detriment of the person being manipulated”. The term has been applied to any tactic, psychological or otherwise, which can be seen as… [cont.] and used various methods including conservatorship Conservatorship is a legal concept in the United States of America, where an entity or organization is subjected to the legal control of an external entity or organization, known as a conservator. Conservatorship is established either by court order or via a statutory or regulatory authority (with regards to organizations). When referring to… [cont.] and deprogramming Deprogramming refers to actions that attempt to force a person to abandon allegiance to a religious, political, economic, or social group. Methods and practices typically involve violent kidnapping and coercion. Similar actions, when done without force, are called “exit counseling”… [cont.] to counter the group. By the mid 1970s, as the Children of God and other new religious movements A new religious movement is a faith-based community, or ethical, spiritual, or philosophical group of recent origin. NRMs may be novel in origin or they may be part of a wider religion, such as Christianity, in which case they will be distinct from pre-existing denominations. Scholars studying the sociology of religion have almost unanimously… [cont.] grew and expanded around the world, a wider anti-cult movement developed in North America, Western Europe, and elsewhere. In the early 1980s many of the parent groups merged into what became known as the Cult Awareness Network The Cult Awareness Network was founded in the wake of the November 18, 1978 deaths of members of the group Peoples Temple and assassination of Congressman Leo J. Ryan in Jonestown, Guyana. CAN is now owned and operated by associates of the Church of Scientology, an organization that the original founders of CAN strongly opposed. Prior to its… [cont.], which is now owned by the Church of Scientology The Church of Scientology is the largest organization devoted to the practice and the promotion of the Scientology belief system. The Church of Scientology International is the Church of Scientology’s parent organization, and is responsible for the overall ecclesiastical management, dissemination and propagation of Scientology. Every Church of… [cont.].”

    RJ | November 20, 2010 at 4:56 am | Reply Thanks for the citation CD.

    Cat Daddy | November 20, 2010 at 7:12 pm | Reply You are welcome RJ. OSA asisted that “Children of God” cult in Australia back in the 90-ties.
     
  3. AnonKat

    AnonKat Crusader

    This

    THIS

    Very Exploitable !!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. oneonewasaracecar

    oneonewasaracecar Gold Meritorious Patron

    There is still a connection. The Moonies have a UN NGO called 'The Universal Peace Federation.' They have an audience with the UN on matters of religious tolerance. Scientology is friendly with them. The last CCHR event in Sydney (About 2 years ago) was held by at the Moonies building.

    The Moonies Catrine Von Dinklage (who helped them host the event) may be related to Aussie Scilons by blood...
     
  5. Wants2Talk

    Wants2Talk Silver Meritorious Patron

    Ricky's farewell.
    Long but riveting
    [video=youtube;3p0-iLcx4es]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p0-iLcx4es[/video]
     
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