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Russia: Police raid Saint Petersburg org, Sept. 25, 2014

Discussion in 'Legal and Government Actions Involving Scientology' started by mnql1, Sep 27, 2014.

  1. mnql1

    mnql1 Patron Meritorious

    At 10:30 a.m. on Thursday, September 25, 2014, police raided the Church of Scientology located at 21 Rozenstein Street in Saint Peterburg, Russia. Authorities are investigating a "large-scale fraud" by the construction company "Olimp" whose directors are Scientologists Ekaterina and Mikhail Zaborskikh. Money that buyers paid to purchase apartments in buildings yet to be constructed was allegedly siphoned off to pay for Scientology courses or as donations to Scientology's "volunteer ministers." According to present estimates, 9 million rubles were stolen from defrauded investors.

    A video posted on Russia's NTV website on September 27 shows some scenes from the raid. The speaker heard in the video is Vyacheslav Stepchenko, an official of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. He states that the raid took place and summarizes the fraud allegations.

    Sources (in Russian):
    NTV video Sept. 27, 2014
    NTV video Sept. 25,2014
    Article, Sept. 25, 2014: Police raid Scientology business
     
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  2. oneonewasaracecar

    oneonewasaracecar Gold Meritorious Patron

    I'm going to reserve judgement on this.

    Although it is likely that Scientology has engaged in fraud, I am not certain I support the tactics used.

    By the looks of that video, nothing was shredded. They sent in commandos in ski masks.
     
  3. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    did they bring caek and dance too... excuse me while I settle down, I think something was in that rice that I just fried.
     
  4. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP


    Yes, it IS likely. :yes:

    If it's not fraud it's not Scientology. :whistling::biggrin:
     
  5. Dean Blair

    Dean Blair Silver Meritorious Patron

    This was a pleasant morning surprise. It reminds me of the FDA raid on Washington DC and the FBI raid in Los Angeles. I am happy to see that the Russian Govt. has some balls. Looking forward to the time when our government takes some effective action against Scientology.:thumbsup:
     
  6. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    You can look forward to the US government taking effective action, but it will never happen.

    I think Russia is in part showing the US that they aren't going to put up with the US's damn cults, along with all the other bullshit it is doing in the Ukraine with the intelligence ops and staged coup earlier this year.

    Go ahead Slappy, send Tom and JT to plead with Putin like they did with Helmut Kohl in the 90s. I'm sure that'll be effective. LOL...

    Scientology may be getting caught up in the "new cold war". And hey, that's kinda funny. LOL....

    But I'm a sick bastard. Love the ski masks myself, btw.... Get 'em!!! LOL..
     
  7. Chris Shelton

    Chris Shelton Patron with Honors

    This is not how Scientology is going to go down. My initial take on this is that it was a waste of time and is only going to serve the IAS to rally the whales and get them donating more money for some crusade in Russia. Is this going to hurt CSI or RTC or CST? Not in the slightest. Miscavige could close St Petersburg org entirely and not lose much of anything in terms of real lasting damage to Scientology. The Scientologists in Russia will rally as well around the common cause of fighting the "suppressive government" which of course may not be so untrue in the case of Russia. We'll see what happens. Maybe I'll be proven wrong.
     
  8. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    I agree that this will not take Scientology on the whole down. But it's days in Russia are numbered. The geopolitical scene is different now. Very different. And I do think this is in play here.

    The Scientologists in Russia can rally all they want. They can also be rounded up and put in "Putin's Hole". There's not a damn thing the US State Department can do about it. Oh I suppose lifting the sanctions and promising to let Russia have eastern Ukraine could greatly help. LOL...

    Yeah, that'll happen.
     
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  9. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    Dave and Vlad would make a lovely couple.
     
  10. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    --Withdrawn--

    ESMB collectively doesn't laugh much anymore.

    Too bad.
     
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  11. Boojuum

    Boojuum Silver Meritorious Patron

    This is just more nasty stuff that the COS gets dragged into that shows you the culture of high-roller, high-risk finance and iffy justifications that lives in Scientology circles.

    The COS is a high-pressure sales organization and leads people into silly financial deals rife with deception, bankruptcy, bad credit, borrowing from rich friends, full of promise and short on delivery and lacking in financial or career integrity.

    :thumbsup:
     
  12. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    Yes, and not to mention the unethical things Scilons do to one another. I know of at least one case in which one Scilon through trickery and deceit totally screwed another Scilon out of his successful business. Of course he was an on-purpose high contributor so the church didn't do anything about it.
     
  13. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    I think this is great.....and it will hurt the Org......IF they follow the money.

    So a big construction company......plays funny with people's deposits....

    Spends some at the local c of $

    BUT,, if they follow the money......where does that money go....?

    All the way to DM? All the way to Int? All the way to the russian or eastern european LO?

    Does it go to that Australian Corporation....that runs everything in Europe and Britain....?

    It certainly doesn't stop at the local St Petersburg c of $....

    I can see the Pravda Headlines......Cult stole home buyers monies in St. Petersburg Russia....and it ends up in California USA....!! Great stuff IMO.
     
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  14. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

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    [video=youtube_share;AOAtz8xWM0w]http://youtu.be/AOAtz8xWM0w[/video]​
     
  15. mnql1

    mnql1 Patron Meritorious

    Incidentally, the raid of the Church of Scientology in Saint Petersburg took place exactly one week before the European Court of Human Rights is scheduled to hand down a decision on Thursday, October 2, 2014 regarding Russia's refusal to register the Saint Petersburg org.

    Source: Forthcoming judgments re: BG, CZ, FR, GR, MD, NO, PT, RU & UA 30.09-02.10.14
     
  16. oneonewasaracecar

    oneonewasaracecar Gold Meritorious Patron

    Incidentally?
     
  17. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    From Tony O's Underground Bunker earlier this morning:

     
  18. mnql1

    mnql1 Patron Meritorious

    Posted on Monday, September 29, 2014 by Interfax:
    http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=11535
     
  19. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    This is typical with Russian police & military ops. You will also notice in the videos that there are un-masked uniformed police milling about.

    http://www.creditnet.ru/info/?id=8380788&&lang=en&report_id=1388354136369

    The Scilon couple has a daughter living in the LA area.. she's anglicized her name. https://plus.google.com/107983162336857930903/posts

    https://interactive.web.insurance.ca.gov/webuser/Licw_Indv_Det$.STARTUP?Z_INDV_ID=1599410&Z_IL_LIC_NBR=0I49763

    https://www.facebook.com/angelika.zaborskikh
     
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