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Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niacin?

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by CommunicatorIC, Apr 25, 2014.

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  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niacin?

    "PLEASE ANSWER ME!!!"

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  2. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    :omg:
     
  3. Freeminds

    Freeminds Bitter defrocked apostate

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    A "Thetan rocket booster?"

    Is that clamspeak for a blowjob, or just run-of-the-mill retarded pseudoscience?

    Anyway, shut up and take my money: I love it when you talk Theta to me.
     
  4. Isme

    Isme Patron with Honors

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    This reads totally nuts to me. Imho wins shouldn't be used as THE promo piece, but whatever.

    I like the "plug" to spending money in there that I am CERTAIN the SO staffers caught so encouraged this person to send the email...



    Oh yes, I will deaden all 57 perceptions so I can see that I am in, but don't feel the pain of remortgaging my house for the fifth time. :duh:

    This is just going beyond ridiculous and has truly entered the realm of incomprehensible idiocy.
     
  5. Helena Handbasket

    Helena Handbasket Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    I never took 5000mg of niacin on the Purif, but before Scn I was into something called Orthomolecular Psychiatry which believed in the same sort of vitamins. I was up to 5000 (or was that 2500?) mg of niacin at one point.

    But it restimulated some EXTREME sadness. So terrible, that I stopped the program and never continued.

    I said it before and I'll say it again: the real EP of the Purif is deciding you need auditing.

    Helena
     
  6. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    I don't know how many mg of Niacin I had but I know that I reached the maximum of all vits and after three weeks I'd still not had a damn thing turn on or off.

    They had to take me off the Purif and send me to the Advanced Org to make me write a "success story" before they'd let me go onto the next action.

    Oh happy days - not!
     
  7. This is NOT OK !!!!

    This is NOT OK !!!! Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    I got to 5,000 mg Niacin both times I did the Purif.

    My liver still hasn't forgiven me!
     
  8. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    I did a liver cleanse after the Purif, but there's nothing I can do about the hearing loss that 5000 units of Niacin caused. My eardrums 'bout exploded at the 600 units level, but I continued to 5000.
    I was auditing a PC fairly early on in myPurif when I said to her " Is that my arm, or is it yours"? Thank God that my PCs loved me. PC laughed like hell, I explained I was on the Purif, and I declined to audit anymore until I completed it.
    I honestly couldn't differentiate one arm from another. Both were on the auditing table. I looked and looked and finally had to ask. LOL.
     
  9. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    Since their has been few treads recently about the purif

    I wonder how people reading on message boards could still want to enroll on such procedure.
    In fact, there is not even one single study showing any positive result in detoxifying with such procedure
    neither a factual collect of datas like blood of tissues samples analysis.

    To the contrary, there is evidences with independant studies that such high dosage of niacin can be very much harmfull

    There is many testimonies of such dammages well documented with medical test and exams in hospitals especially to the liver. (particurlarly with Narconon expose)

    I myself experienced the same severe illness twice on the purif and it possibly dammaged permanently my bones from severe dehydratation and mineral loss.

    To the lurkers : Please, if you hold on such belief that your body needs some detoxification - there is many gentle way to perform such detox for the different organs involved, Competent naturopath, herborist specialist, integrative medicine doctors can recommand some program known , for not creating health issue, at least. Such program shall be developped bycompetent people - never by a guru leading a cult. As many people, I do gentle detox one or twice a years with giving a rest to my body while drinking many fluids, herbs juice and eat fresh raw food and exercice.
     
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2014
  10. Reasonable

    Reasonable Silver Meritorious Patron

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    To any Super Power graduates:

    The only gain I want to see from a person who claims super powers is the power to make money. Almost everyone wants money. So just to prove you have amazing abilities SHOW ME THE MONEY. At least that is quantifiable. I am sure a few people have made money. But Hubbard says it works 100% of the time and since most people want money, I will re-join if I see 90% of people making about $250,000 a year after doing super power.


    Until that I don't want to hear about remote viewing, overflowing theta or a rocket ride on Hubbard's big red pointy cock. Just show me the money.
     
  11. 8-8008

    8-8008 Patron with Honors

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac


    LOL I agree. If the money is flowing like never before and if you make a MILLION within a year, I get back in Scn.... :)
     
  12. scooter

    scooter Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    I "finished" the Purif on 2,500 mg B3. That was before the Runt Usurper piloted His version on the Mimeo section at Int by running them up to 5,000 on their bi-annual Purifs and leaving them there for months.

    Since then, I've seen folks at NarCONons take 3 months or more of sauna torture.
     
  13. Udarnik

    Udarnik Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    Three months?

    You've got to be fucking kidding me. That is accompanied by the vitamin mega-doses, right? :duh:

    Someone is going to die. :nervous:

    Oh wait, someone already has. :angry:
     
  14. Bea Kiddo

    Bea Kiddo Crusader

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    I have posted this before, but it deserves another mention, on this thread.

    I was the Case Supervisor for the Purif at CCInt for about 5 years or so. CCI has a good sized Purif and 3 full time staff just for Purif. We had many completions of the Purif. I would say most people on it got up to 5000mg of niacin before completing. I would say 80% or so made it to 5000 mg.

    Sometime in the 90's I got a request... I was in the C/S office (Ivory Tower) and I was told that Dr Denk was downstairs in the Purif area and wanted to talk to me. I went down to see him. From what I understood, he had helped develop the Purif with LRH (I have no idea if that is true, but that was what I understood at the time). He had a paper in his hand, which I found out was from Senior C/S Int, Ray Mithoff, who was asking him what advice he had when someone got up to 5000mg of niacin but had still not achieved the end phenomena of the Purif? Was it safe to have the person take higher doses? Dr Denk came to me to find out the answer. I thought it was a bit odd, but ok. I answered him that we had not had that problem. Some had gotten up to 5000 mg of niacin and no longer getting any reactions from it and it appeared to be dragging. We would go back through all of the days they had been on the RD and find where the niacin was raised when it was still getting a reaction and put the person back down to the lower dosage. This always produced a reaction (niacin reaction) on the person and they were able to continue forward and complete the action.

    So he left with that information and I assume answered the letter to that effect. Thankfully he did not say that it was ok to have a person go to higher dosages of niacin. That was what was being asked.... if they could go higher than 5000mg of niacin in one dose. Yeesh.
     
  15. Maria

    Maria Patron

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    Oh! I agree! In that case I'll go back too!

    Too bad "the English language has literally no vocabulary to describe what has happened with the advent of this Rundown" so we will never know...
     
  16. Happy Days

    Happy Days Silver Meritorious Patron

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    Berndt Mottl is the brother of Gerhardt Mottl who lives here in ACT, a local Scio ... I remember their mother who was living in Germany, we had met and sadly she has since passed away, she reported the cult for not having medical cover for Berndt, a then SO member, in Germany, the cult had to yield and get medical cover for all SO members in Germany, good outcome; and Gerhardt took pleasure in telling us that this occurred ... funny that... as he's was/is still a brainwashed cult member and his daughter Ayla is on staff at ACT org. This happened was some time ago now early 2000's.

    In relation to Berndt success story, it reads like the ramblings of a man on the brink of a psychotic break... and that my friends is Scientology. Nuff said :)
     
  17. HollywoodGuy

    HollywoodGuy Patron with Honors

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    When I did the Purif, I think it only took me about two weeks.

    I was actually only doing it for about two hours a day during the weekdays. On the weekends, I did it a little bit longer.

    I have no idea how much niacin I took, but certainly not enough where I was getting a niacin flush.

    Overall, my Purif experience was pretty benign.

    I was only 14 when I did it. At that point, I had just tried pot a few times, and I'd had the occasional aspirin, cough syrup, caffeine, etc.
     
  18. Dave B.

    Dave B. Maximus Ultimus Mostimus

    Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

    I lasted nine days on the Purif. Don't remember how much Niacin I was taking but the entire experience was dreadful. Not theraputic. My BP was 209/140, I almost had a stroke.
     
  19. Viktor

    Viktor New Member

    Yes. I did!! 32days 5000mg of niacin with an excellent noticable result. Who ever say its a dreadful experience, obviously don't know what they're talking about. Being a Scientologist or not it's great experience and opportunity.
     
  20. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    What other Scientology services have you done?