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Scientology security kills man with sword

Discussion in 'Legal and Government Actions Involving Scientology' started by iaxiloll, Nov 23, 2008.

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  1. Smitty

    Smitty Silver Meritorious Patron

    Some posters don't get the point

    It appears that this was a justifiable homicide. Swords are deadly weapons. The man assaulted the guards with them. A guard used a pistol to shoot the man in self-defense. That is not the issue.
    The important point is this:
    An organization that cloaks itself as a religion and delivers unlicensed clinical psychology with fraudulent promises creates a person who was very hostile about his dealings with corporate scientology. For some reason, he did not pursue a legal remedy, but rather chose an illegal remedy. The homicide clearly shows scientology does not have a "uniformly workable tech" and people die as a result.
    This has NOTHING to do with critics or Anonymous and has EVERYTHING to do with corporate scientology.
  2. Emma

    Emma Con te partirĂ² Administrator

    ^^ THIS!
  3. Good point, Smitty. It will be interesting to see just what the connection between the guy with the swords and Scientology really is. So far it has come to light that he is a disgruntled Ex from a long time ago, but something must have set him off.
  4. Smitty

    Smitty Silver Meritorious Patron

    There is hope for the man killed by the scientology guard

    According to L. Ron Hubbard,"Some time ago I realized the resolution of this scene would require a powerful tech, tailored to check this downward spiral at each step of the way and get it reverting upwards. I set about to study and research and develop processes that would accomplish this. The result of that work is Super Power. Super Power is the answer to a sick, a dying and dead society. With it we literally revive the dead!"

    Gosh, where was Super Power when Lisa McPherson died? Where was Super Power when Uwe Stuckenbrock died? Where was Super Power when Stacy Moxon Meyer died? Literally revive the dead? Could it be that scientology is really a fraudulent business operation, practicing unlicensed quack psychology, and cloaking itself as a religion?
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  5. Thrak

    Thrak Gold Meritorious Patron

    How could you say such a thing?
  6. Rmack

    Rmack Van Allen Belt Sunbather

  7. Matex

    Matex Patron

    If it's in your home and the person is an intruder, then that's what "Stand-your-ground" laws are for. You still shouldn't shoot him in the back, figuratively, and it's not recommended literally because it looks very bad. There may be cases where you have to, like if he's reaching for your gun rack for instance...

    Don't just go by Wikipedia's blurb on Castle Doctrine - you need to know exactly how things work in your particular state.
  8. Lohan2008

    Lohan2008 Gold Meritorious Patron


    how can u say sucha thing
  9. Tim Skog

    Tim Skog Silver Meritorious Patron

    Perhaps the security guard was running the R2-45 process.
  10. ScudMuffin

    ScudMuffin Silver Meritorious Patron

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  11. SchwimmelPuckel

    SchwimmelPuckel Genuine Meatball

    That's all I can say...

  12. Div6

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  13. iaxiloll

    iaxiloll Patron with Honors

  14. Good twin

    Good twin Floater

    Thank you!!!

    I agree.........
  15. Pixie

    Pixie Crusader

    Thanks for posting these iax. So, he had 'mental issues'? I wonder why? I hope they ask the question why he went there with swords in the first place. My god, this is just too shocking. My heart goes out to the family and friends of this man. They are driving people totally insane, when is this going to end. One can only imagine the 'PR flap', the lies and the bullshit the CULT is going to spin to the media. :duh: This is heartbreaking, one can only imagine the mental state of the man wielding the swords. Maybe he was another one on ot7 for years on end, bankrupt, whatever, who knows, but it's about time the government started to investigate. This is just too disturbing.
  16. iaxiloll

    iaxiloll Patron with Honors

  17. Mick Wenlock

    Mick Wenlock Admin Emeritus (retired)

    Well I can speak as a licensed armed guard. No-one in their right mind would try to shoot to "disable". IN my training and in my certification I was instructed "Only draw the weapon if you intend to use it. If you intend to use it then you are aiming to kill the person you are shooting at." If you are in a position where the gun is needed then you have seconds to get it right - so trying to shoot someone in the legs, for example, is a very risky endeavor. You would probably miss and even if you hit them there is a very good chance it would not knock them down. Having said all that - in 10 years I never had to draw a weapon.

    You are totally right about the "tech" of course. The reason he did not "use" it is because it is meaningless drivel that works about as well as shaman spells.

  18. Mick Wenlock

    Mick Wenlock Admin Emeritus (retired)

  19. uniquemand

    uniquemand Unbeliever

    It has everything to do with a lunatic trying to assault people with swords. That he was an ex-member of the Church explains why he would be angry at them (weren't we all angry at them?). In my own dealings with the Church, angry as I did become, I never charged anyone with two swords. The man was a nut.
  20. johnAnchovie

    johnAnchovie Still raging

    What is it about that cult...

    Didn't a similar thing happen before? A fair gamed and forcibly disconnected man went and shot his wife, she was in a car with a Sea Org member on Bernado Street, was it with Marty Rathburn? Back about 84, a year before I joined up?

    Anybody got more on this?
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