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The latest news from Flag from an insider

Discussion in 'Leaks - Emails, Promo, Insider Info' started by dianaclass8, Nov 8, 2011.

  1. CarmeloOrchards

    CarmeloOrchards Crusader

    Back in the early 70s, when I was doing solo auditing, I conjured up a poster of a naked guy, with a girl going down on him, while he was holding solo cans and looking at the meter and worksheets. The caption was, "Having trouble getting F/Ns? Take the Solo Brush Up Course"
     
  2. dianaclass8

    dianaclass8 Silver Meritorious Patron

    I got the info from a SO member at Flag, they are now going to have to 'roll back' everybody from top to bottom on the ranks:biggrin:

    And this just got in:

    Re: your post on ESMB about Flag

    It's true

    A-J was extended with other questions like
    "Do you download pornographic material from the internet?"

    It is being practiced since about 4 years ago. I have been enduring these questions.

    Afterwards I had an "ethics handling". I had to study a chapter from Handbook for Preclears and the HCOB "Sex and pain" and some others which I do not remember.

    Of course the handling did not work. Maybe Miscavige wants to eradicate the 2D impulses on SO staff.
     
  3. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    I wonder how many people will write extensive CSWs complete with the other* Hubbard references requesting to be allowed to masturbate?

    Paul

    *I dug these up one time for a Comm Ev (didn't make any difference, of course). There's the one in a Hubbard book that all primates including man masturbate. There's the PL on 2D rules in OEC Vol 4 (I think) saying we aren't interested in the private lives of pcs/students as long as they don't impact others. There is also this Level 2 tape bit excerpted below:
    A lot of auditors specialize in embarrassing things, see, as the very thing you must pick up. To hell with them! You know? Well, pick them up, but thathathabooh!

    No, we're interested in things people have done to people. See? We're interested in overts. We is not interested in a withhold because it is simply seamy.
     
  4. Mick Wenlock

    Mick Wenlock Admin Emeritus (retired)

    hey, that's not right Bertie and I set the price at $40K and no-one asked me if it was OK to raise it.
     
  5. Infinite

    Infinite Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller

    ORLY? I heard that when DM cums, he calls out his own name.
     
  6. skydog

    skydog Patron Meritorious

    I just got a mental picture and may never masterbate again.

    Tom Cruise and Dave Miscavige having a quiet candlelight dinner in some exotic love nest paid by for by tax deductible donations discussing the different sexual positions they have learned through their study of the ethics files of the OTVIIs and VIIIs.
     
  7. EP - Ethics Particle

    EP - Ethics Particle Gold Meritorious Patron

    This comment really resonates with me - how many times did I sit at the departure gate at Tampa AP and purge my briefcase and pockets of all the drivel I had accumulated during the stay and assign it to the insatiable trash receptacles. :duh:

    It actually felt like I had escaped by the skin of me teeth, some dreadful prision or experience.

    The question I still ask myself is WHY did I subject myself to that kind of thing when I really did not have to do so. :p :confused2:

    But the fact remains that I did - and way more than a few, too! :unsure:

    I have a notion that "escape" is the underlying thing that explains much of Scientology's hold over an individual. :ohmy: Escape feels good! :yes:

    Think about it...an F/N or a floating T/A is a sort of "escape" isnt it? Even a good "cog" might be so described and felt.

    Scientology is now, to me, an increasingly boring thing.

    Wonder what other messes I can make in life so as to have the pleasure of "escaping" from it or them? :dieslaughing:

    EP
     
  8. Reasonable

    Reasonable Silver Meritorious Patron

    If your friend is complaining about these practices and sees what has happened to Scientology why didn't he/she leave yet? :duh::confused2::duh::confused2:
     
  9. Lurker5

    Lurker5 Gold Meritorious Patron

    That little pissant has a real problem with sex and sexuality - and a perversion for knowing other people's personal and private INTIMATE business . . . . Tsk tsk.
    Who is it who needs serious ethics . . .

    PS: edit add - Wasn't it Applewhite who had his male followers get castrated, so they would not have sex?
    Another one with a delusion about space beings . . . .
     
  10. Lurker5

    Lurker5 Gold Meritorious Patron

    In prison, prisoners have sex . . . . It is worse than prison.
     
  11. Lurker5

    Lurker5 Gold Meritorious Patron

    :lol:

    I am beginning to wonder if he can even get it . . . .
    Well, you all know. Envy - he is envious of anyone who can get off, so forbids it. The tubbard did the same thing. IMHO. Allegedly . . . and all that crap.
     
  12. Winston Smith

    Winston Smith Flunked Scientology

    Lawdy Gawd almighty, Scn has gone off the deep end. George Orwell or Aldous Huxley could not have dreamed up a more twisted world.
     
  13. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    I felt exactly the same way...I didn't breathe easy until the plane left the tarmac.

    Never going back, ever.

    Very hostile environment.
     
  14. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    I got mass on that! Signed a liability once and went to shake the guy's hand = awkward moment. :yes:
     
  15. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    I thought there was another lecture along the lines of Level 2 that stated basically the same thing but specifically mentioned masturbation, as in "We're interested in overts, NOT times the PC masturbated."

    Something like that, Paul.
     
  16. Ted

    Ted Gold Meritorious Patron


    Yes, there is such a lecture. If the pc offers it up, you accept it per basic auditing, then move on.

    Some auditors make a specialty of pulling the pc's petty social transgressions, not actual overts by definition.
     
  17. Rene Descartes

    Rene Descartes Gold Meritorious Patron

    CourseSup: Start of Muster! Does anyone have a win they would like to share? Yes, Bill.

    Bill: I have gone 3 weeks without beating the wank!

    Courseroom: (Clap, Applause, Cheer)

    CourseSup: Does anyone else have a win they would like to share? Sally?

    Sally: Last night I got really excited thinking about that new guy that just started in Div 6. And I was tempted to wiggle my nilly when I went to bed. But then I asked, what would Ron do? And I realized that Ron would write a HCOB about how evil Pyschs invented sex to control people. So I pulled out my copy of Pain and Sexthat the Ethics Officer gave me a few weeks ago and word cleared. And my urge to wiggle my nilly just blew.

    Courseroom: (Loud claps, cheers)

    CourseSup: Joe?

    Joe: Well I know this insn't perfect but I did get my stats up. Last month I refrained from slapping my monkey, 29 out of 30 days. I think I am on the road to OT.

    Couseroom: HIP HIP HOORAY!!! HIP HIP HOORAY! HIP HIP HOORAY!

    Rd00
     
  18. Ted

    Ted Gold Meritorious Patron


    Wiggle my nilly? First time I have heard that one!

    :dieslaughing:
     
  19. Gadfly

    Gadfly Crusader

    Early on in Scientology I simply refused to discuss "whacking off" as an overt.

    I truly had the view that it was NOT any sort of "harmful act", and I refused to waste auditing minutes (and dollars) discussing such nonsense.

    It may be that this is one of those behaviors that NEVER will stop, and what better way to keep the auditing minutes and hours ding-ding-dinging along than to keep "pulling withholds" about something that will ALWAYS continue to happen.

    Scientology likes to cannabilize its membership - suck every last penny out of them. So, figuring out ways to keep the overts coming, overts that will never resolve no matter how many conditions or Sec Checks or FPRDs are completed, will act to keep the DOLLARS coming in to PAY FOR the "handlings".
     
  20. Auditor's Toad

    Auditor's Toad Clear as Mud

    Likewise... when a PC came up with "masturbation" I always said " No that wasn't it. I'm looking for an overt not a pleasure moment. Now, let me ask you that again...La te dah ".

    Masturbation is normal. Masturbation is pleasure.
    What insane fool would ever imagine it was an overt?