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Unofficial Official statement of Anon's stance on Tory.

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by FacelessVoice, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. SchwimmelPuckel

    SchwimmelPuckel Genuine Meatball

    I got a cease and desist letter from an old decrepit lawyer after the first raid. The cult sent out those letters all over the place at the beginning. They had one case in court (LA?), where they (OSA) presented the judge with 'evidence' of Anon crimes they had produced themselves. So they were thrown out of court... All butthurt I'm sure.. They seem to have largely given up on fairgaming anyone since. But of course, they can't do it unless they have a good case.

    They made an attempt with Stu Wyatt in Plymouth, where they managed to get the police involved in the nuttyness.. Ie: Police chasing Stu away at protests.

    But in reality, protection of identity is only half of it.. You have to watch the movie 'V for Vendetta' to know. And if you don't like the movie, imagine that you do... So Anonymous is 'at cause' with these Guy Fawkes masks rather than in fear of OSA. They mean to strike fear in the hearts of the OSA fags... Well.. In the end it's just for the LULz I'd suspect.

  2. Vinaire

    Vinaire Sponsor

    Can we have a series of signs showing the bridge to SP?

    Looking at Scientology's products these days SPs seem to be the real Operating Thetans, and OTs appear to be namby-pamby bunch of pantywaist dilettantes.

  3. byte301

    byte301 Crusader

    Haha! Good one Vinaire. That would make a nice group of signs for sure.
    I am making a t shirt that says, "Hi Tiny Davey?" LOL :p
  4. byte301

    byte301 Crusader

    Oh yeah, I forgot about Stu! That whole thing sucked.

    The gf masks are just so cool looking too. :yes:
  5. nozeno

    nozeno Gold Meritorious Patron

  6. Escalus

    Escalus Patron Meritorious

    This right here. The street-assigned scientologists aren't quite flat on the mask. Their TRs go all out when they see it. It really bothers them. There is discussion, the next time a scientologists shouts "WHY ARE YOU WEARING A MASK?" the answer becomes "Fourteen!"
  7. Pixie

    Pixie Crusader

    That's incredible really, considering that 'TR's' are sooooo important when on post.. which was most of the time anyway... but for this to happen, the black PR about Anon must be rife with all sorts of fear, they are obviously keyed in by what they've been told.. all that evil 'entheta' shit, I think actually that any ex that attends a protest is very brave in my book and they have my utmost admiration.

    That's a great answer, 'fourteen', just enough to help them wake up even if just a little, make them think.. good one.. :yes:
  8. byte301

    byte301 Crusader

    Help me out here...what's Fourteen? I've been out too long I guess.:confused2:
  9. Escalus

    Escalus Patron Meritorious

  10. byte301

    byte301 Crusader

  11. feline

    feline Patron Meritorious

    I don't know that I agree with all you have said, Terl. I do agree that it seems like there is less desire to welcome anyone not "their own". And I probably said that badly but don't know a better way to say it. I am even seeing this in the local group which is distressing.

    I don't know that they will fizzle and die but do know that when the call went out to send information to the FBI, only one other person in the local group seemed interested. That isn't to say that there aren't other people getting on board with it, just that there doesn't SEEM to be.

    Anons seem to hate anyone that they put on a pedestal. I wish they wouldn't do that anymore. Just let people be people and quit being so damned judgmental about everyone. I don't think that anyone really wants or needs a pedestal.
  12. johnAnchovie

    johnAnchovie Still raging


    Tory had plenty of warning to not play in the TD, she thought she knew better. She needs to acknowledge that she was a silly billy.

    Anon is a loosely bound grouping, it is having a powerful effect. If you are expecting them to be all huggy and warm to us oldfags, well then you are being naive, giving us the warm and fuzzies is not their game.

    I think they are doing great, Davvy is shitting his pants and the stats are crashing. That is what I want to see, that is what is happening. More power to them.
  13. alex

    alex Gold Meritorious Patron

    But gentlewoman, why would you want to cause fear?

    Yes it is power you have over another....retribution?

    But does it move you towards your goals? Or does it work to create a situation of more tension, more resistance to your message, and less progress?

    Burma shave signs....

    Were you promised

    training and auditing

    but only getting post hatting

    and afraid to ask why?


    who leads the church

    and what is his case level

    and auditor classification

    is there an outpoint?


    why is ARC

    not part of KSW?


  14. Lulu Belle

    Lulu Belle Moonbat

    OH ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (No wonder I love you so much.):biglove:

    Did you know that Libras are the only sign in the Zodiac that get along well with their own sign? :D
  15. Lulu Belle

    Lulu Belle Moonbat

    Good luck with that.
  16. Lulu Belle

    Lulu Belle Moonbat

    What he said.
  17. SomeGuy

    SomeGuy Patron Meritorious

    Well I think this is part of the "culture shock" portion. To some of these people Anonymous is not just some protest against the CoS. It's actually a state of mind and you have icontry and rhetoric built around it. For lack of a better term I'll just use anarchy.

    It's probably one of the primary reasons for drama popping up. When they glommed into this movement the invitation was probably more along the lines of come join us at protests as opposed to become one of us.

    It's one of those blurry lines where you have years upon years of culture built up and a singular event exposes it to more mainstream people who actually might not fully understand what the whole sub culture is about.

    Once they find out they want to change it, mold it what ever and it seems apparent while it might bend a little the bounce back is pretty brutal.

    The solution to this seems pretty simple if the concept of taking down the CoS is valuable and there is a group actively doing it participating along side does not require you buy into their methodology. It lets every one keep their own identity and not compromise.

    I'm probably just babbling and have lurked too many forums and spoken / know a few hard core old school anons that I might have a different perspective on all of it and why events like the current Old Guard vs Anonymous rift has cropped up.

    As another observation the message in this OP sounds nothing like an Anonymous collective would come up. It sounds like what some one with a specific gripe would come up with.
  18. gomorrhan

    gomorrhan Gold Meritorious Patron

    Whatever. Anonymous never really impressed me as anything other than a fad for Philip K Dick-starved teen-agers. I like the V for Vendetta theme, and of course I'm happy if anything they did actually helped bring down the Church, but the self-important, self-indulgent and adolescent nature of most of the message always struck me as annoying.

    Bandwagons always bug me.

    Go OBAMA!
  19. Ladybird

    Ladybird Silver Meritorious Patron

    I thmell OthA. Who do we OG know that writes in the royal "WE"? Would a real anon put quotes around "lulz"? And since when does Anonymous have a spokesqueen? PUHLEEZE!!!! Check out the writing voice, here's the OP:

    Mark my words, I am next just for posting this. OSA will be calling me a "cunt" as they usually do and threatening to out me within hours.

    Tory warned Anon this would happen (Anonymous would be infiltrated,) and now that it has it is causing a temporary bit of confusion. Tomorrow is Thursday at 2, and then it will start all over.

    Anonymous is everyone, not just the "ex" - garbage bin divers. I think what Anonymous has done in the past few months has educated countless numbers of people about the cult of scientology and many of them are smart and caring enough to see beyond this OSA orchestrated infighting. There is a real problem here, and this OP is just more evidence of it.

    As Ida Camburn would say; "Keep on keeping on!"
  20. Pixie

    Pixie Crusader

    Well stated. The fact that they are a group of 'individuals' which is not something most of us are used to makes all the difference. These differences are there for a reason, if not, we'd end up with more insane 'group think', and as you noted SomeGuy one does NOT have to buy into their methodology so it is indeed a breath of fresh air that there is a group out there that don't compromise because of the beliefs of others religious or otherwise.

    There are always going to be a few bad or weird apples, that's life, and human nature. The long and the short of it is that they've done more good than harm, more power to them.