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User Name Change

Discussion in 'General Scientology Discussion' started by The Oracle, Feb 13, 2008.

  1. The Oracle

    The Oracle Gold Meritorious Patron

    I have changed my user name from the illusioness to the oracle.

    Now, when people want to chide me, instead of calling me "the delussioness", the can call me "the debacle".

    All in all, I have evolved on esmb.

  2. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa


    I found that when I was on beliefnet and I changed my identity, it was always an opportunity to adopt things that people had screamed at me that my old identity had resisted, but I secretly knew were right.

    How is The Oracle different from The Illusionness?
  3. neiljung

    neiljung Patron with Honors

    It's certainly more decisive and definitive, at least in name. I've been thinking about getting a new nic myself. Not everyone will get the teenage fanclub reference. In fact, almost nobody will. Meh.
  4. The Oracle

    The Oracle Gold Meritorious Patron

    An Illusioness creates illusions.

    Which I have been gifted at.

    My place in this game though has been to recognize the illusions of others.

    But I have gone beyond that point in life.

    I understand why I have the gift of seeing illusion.

    Now I am exploring the gift of seeing and living on a different time track.

    The future.

    An oracle is a prophet.

    The possibility of the future is more interesting to me now that the illusions of the present.

  5. The Oracle

    The Oracle Gold Meritorious Patron

    Allow me to predict an appropriate new name for you.

    How about: The Messenger

    I feel you have some track running messages.

    Between tribes and between armies and between nobles.

    Tell me how that seems to you.

  6. neiljung

    neiljung Patron with Honors

    Glad you're feeling stronger. Names have power. Be careful.
  7. ExScnDude

    ExScnDude Patron with Honors

    Now we have a place to go before embarking on that big quest.

    I tell ya, ESMB has everything!
  8. TheSneakster

    TheSneakster Guest

    not important
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 25, 2012
  9. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    I kept thinking you were Carl's brother.
  10. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    Oh, Oracle/Illusioness....

    I'll just call you "awesome".
  11. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    I love the nick. Not sure yet whether I love the carrier :)

  12. Mojo

    Mojo Silver Meritorious Patron

    But but but, if the present consists of illusions, when the future becomes the present won't it consist of illusions also?

  13. neiljung

    neiljung Patron with Honors

    That's all we have. Enjoy.
  14. Mojo

    Mojo Silver Meritorious Patron

    Maybe so. Maybe not neiljung (by the way I love your music, especially the mid-seventies stuff).

    For me everything *is* an illusion, save for the being (called Consciousness) observing everything. Notwithstanding my sympathizing with those whom imagine *reality* to be that which appears and disappears, but does so *constantly*. Lol.

    I've sometimes wondered why I've met so few scientologists whom have had the cog about the meaning of being a thetan that I seemed to have had. Which is: Being that which is higher and prior and after (with laughter?) of every appearance of thought, emotion, sensation and form. The infinite Emptiness behind the Form. The Eternal Silence behind the Speech. The Nothingness from which the Everythingness (is that a real word? lol) springs forth (and vanishes back into).

    Perhaps its because the idea of actually being Empty, Silent and Nothing (i.e. a Thetan) is fundamentally unappealing and arguably unattractive. Lol. Nonetheless it is why I am somewhat fond of Ron's first and tenth axioms.

    Which are (for any non-scientologists here):

    Axiom #1: Life is basically a static.

    DEFINITION: A life static has no mass, no motion, no wavelength, no location in space or in time. It has the ability to postulate and to perceive.


    Axiom # 10: The highest purpose in the universe is the creation of an effect.

    The philosophical issue I take with Oracle (great nick/name by the way) in lightheartness, is that dispensing with (or lessening the attention to) the present in the interest of a contemplation/creation of a future implies an essential distinction between the two that simply doesn't spiritually exist. As both are essentially effects. Essential as both may be to the game. Lol.

    For me Time is only a production, and Now alone is Eternal. Thus Time is a Production of Now for me. Always was. Always will be. Lol.


    P.S. the inability to be an effect simultaneously with being a cause has always struck me as an odd consideration which consideration has seemingly produced some rather remarkable pain in the experience of those whom imagine it as so.
  15. neiljung

    neiljung Patron with Honors

    Yeah, but we can do whatever the hell we want. Action is effect, and perception can take whatever form you like. Interpretation even more-so.

    What was your point again?

    Oh, look what time it is.
  16. The Oracle

    The Oracle Gold Meritorious Patron

    I agree, the sneakster is not an appropriate name for you.

    Nevertheless, you are fascinated by the shadows and the mysteries that lurk there. You aren't easily sucked in though to dark channels. You prefer to dwell in well lit places, and cast light into the darkness.

    I think a good user name for you would be Apollo.

    As you are a bringer of light into dark shadows.

    Last edited: Feb 14, 2008
  17. The Oracle

    The Oracle Gold Meritorious Patron

    Sure it will.

    But I am more interested in the possibility of those illusions, yet to be created, than the ones already existing.

  18. neiljung

    neiljung Patron with Honors

    After much thought, I'm going to stick with my current name. It references one of my favourite Teenage Fanclub songs, and Neil Young, and Jung who was an evil perverted psych. That pretty much sums me up.

    Till I'm banned, then I'll probably call myself iherduliekme or something to do with mudkips.
  19. The Oracle

    The Oracle Gold Meritorious Patron

    Well, thanks for explaining that user name!

    Though I don't see it that you are evil in any way as the "Jung" would be.

  20. neiljung

    neiljung Patron with Honors

    Allow me to elaborate;

    "Neil Jung"

    You had a girlfriend
    That wasn't good enough for you
    She was younger
    But that was old enough you knew

    To get undressed for you
    Stressed for you
    Distorting everything
    Became depressed for you

    You were changing
    Didn't want to stay the same
    Dropped a letter from your name

    She'd get uptight with you
    Would fight with you
    And you would never win
    It wasn't right for you

    Was going nowhere
    Couldn't take the pain and left it there
    Was going nowhere
    Couldn't take the pain and left it there

    Not understanding
    Had a different point of view
    Tried to reach her
    When she moved away from you

    She was confusing you
    Using you
    You couldn't understand
    Began amusing you

    Was going nowhere
    Couldn't take the pain and left it there
    Was going nowhere
    Couldn't take the pain and left it there


    Was going nowhere
    Couldn't take the pain and left it there
    Was going nowhere
    Couldn't take the pain and left it there
    Couldn't take the pain and left it there
    Couldn't take the pain and left it there


    And that's the story of neil jung. Great song. Great album. Harmonies just dropping in all over the shop. Beautiful. Anyway....