CO2 changed his nik (from memory) when he found out that his previous name (when googled) had way too many personal photos and details etc about his family ... one of whom works abroad in a pretty red hot position. I presumed (at the time) that it would be too hard for him to delete them all even if he got the OK from a mod and that's why he was allowed to have a new nik (which is close to the original).
He does sometimes log in with both niks (at the same time) and I (again assumed) that he just logged in using the wrong one and didn't realise or whatever (I've seen others do that) but I also realised that if he really wanted to be sneaky about it he would have gone invisible with one or both. He could also be checking for PM's or 'likes' etc to his old nic or be using 2 computers at the same time (as I do) and be logged in on both using both names.
If someone asks me questions that I don't want to answer ... I just don't answer them (I'm not a scientologist anymore so I do what I like, lol).
Call me old fashioned but to me CO2 is a friendly soul ... who still believes in some things that I don't, mainly hangs at the Apollo thread but has perhaps been an 'over sharer' of his past and unless some facts come out (about him being OSA or in OSA's pocket) I'll keep believing that.
Bob Adams certainly sounds weird but we can assume he has his "reasons" ... for keeping his "old friends" close but CO2 isn't daft and would understand that.
I am sure this is what he told you (in bold) However, changing nics does nothing to remove or obscure old posts that are still searchable and findable here and on the internet. He already made his photobucket private so all personal photos he once linked to in his CarmeloOrchard posts are no longer visible.
http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/CarmeloOrchards/library/ There is no reason to create a new nic and profile. Do you know for a fact that he received permission to have a second one?
Besides having lost a password and are no longer using the original email address, the only reason a person creates a new nic and profile and posts from it and not the old one is that they don't want to be associated with the old one. And that is the central issue here. He created a new one after some members questioned his activities, myself included.
I dunno how to respond to that HH ... no-one ever says what he has done, so it's impossible.
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Besides some people just not wanting to get into it publicly, one of the main reasons I have found for people not posting what he has done is because they are afraid. They have given him private information about themselves and later found that their experiences with him caused them to be concerned about having done that. I, on the other hand, have never given him personal information about myself. My experiences with him via PMs is that he searches out people who can provide him information ( especially vulnerable new members with stories that could lead to more information about others, like that woman who posted about her friend th actress... or the other woman Valerie who claimed to have been Hubbard's PC on some pilot project in late 70's early 80s. Both of whom don't post here anymore. He tries to keep them away from other trustworthy critics - even by badmouthing these critics and lying about them. I caught him in several lies. He did this about Karen#1. He lied to me about being in contact with Tony O when he wasn't.
He must have thought I was stupid to just accept what he was saying without checking the information out. I called him on his game. He had nothing to say to me but that I have always been a straight shooter or some such. We left it at that. But then I got a PM one day from Terrill, mentioning that Carmelo was CO2 as if I already knew that. Well I didn't. So I have posted asking CO2 why he's posting under that nic and not his CarmeloOrchards. He's been dodging me. It's not like his real name is ever mentioned in any of these statements. Not like he's being outed or something.
We have rules here. If he got permission to use a different nic name with that excuse, I would find it hard to believe. But even so, his photos are all removed from public view. They were all under his CarmeloOrchard's nic at ESMB and at PhotoBucket. Only someone who knows his real name and that he posts as CarmeloOrchards would put 2+2 together from old photos. There is no reason to not continue posting as CarmeloOrchards except that one does not want to be associated with using that nic name and those posts.
I am not going to tell you how to feel about him, make nothing of your affection for him. He can be very endearing. But as I told Terril when he PM'd me today asking for me to contact him and hear his positive views of Carmelo: I have no interest in discussions further than what is posted here. People need to go by their own experiences with him. BUT they also need to understand that there is no one else in the scientology and scientology critic worlds that we know of who is allowed to do what he does, as HH mentioned. It's a contradiction of all that we know about how Scientology works. If Carmelo can have contact with scientologists and be a 'critic' and a 'squirrel', then why can't others? Because that is not how the game is played. If it were, there would be no disconnection.
My concerns about him are about trust. I am not ashamed to warn people to be cautious with him. I feel an obligation to warn people. Personal details are precious to many here and often kept private for very good reasons. Whether Carmelo is just someone with a big mouth who cannot help when it comes to getting people to open up about details, or if he's acting for OSA knowingly or not, remains to be seen. But people need to be aware of his unique circumstances, especially his supposed friendship with Bob Adams ( who acts for OSA under the PR hat he often wears.)
I hope this answered your question, or at least gave some food for thought. I am sure you'd be getting PMs from others with their experiences and concerns if you were not someone known for liking him so much. It's just the way it goes. Perhaps your response to this will open the door to some members contacting you so you can see that this is just not me and HH saying something. It's been an issue for some, especially those that just don't want to make their concerns public and risk consequences of themselves being outed.
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