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Alan

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A Few Comments on Reincarnation​

Benjamin Franklin:

"I look upon death to be as necessary to the constitution as sleep. We
shall rise refreshed in the morning."

"And, finding myself to exist in the world, I believe I shall, in some
shape or other always exist."


Jack London, author, best known for book "Call of the Wild":

"I did not begin when I was born, nor when I was conceived. I have been
growing, developing, through incalculable myriads of millenniums. All
my previous selves have their voices, echoes, promptings in me. Oh,
incalculable times again shall I be born."

Napoleon was fond of telling his generals that he believed in the law
of Napoleon reincarnation and even told them who he believed to have
been in Napoleona previous life.


Mark Twain:

"I have been born more times than anybody except Krishna."


Leo Tolstoy:

"As we live through thousands of dreams in our present life, so is our
present life only one of many thousands of such lives which we enter
from the other more real life and then return after death. Our life is
but one of the dreams of that more real life, and so it is endlessly,
until the very last one, the very real the life of God."


Henry Ford:

"I adopted the theory of reincarnation when I was 26. Genius is
experience. Some think to seem that it is a gift or talent, but it is
the fruit of long experience in many lives".


Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, (German poet, playwright and scientist):

"As long as you are not aware of the continual law of Die and Be Again,
you are merely a vague guest on a dark Earth."


Freidrich Nietzsche:

"Live so that thou mayest desire to live again - that is thy duty - for
in any case thou wilt live again!"


Mahatma Gandhi:

"I cannot think of permanent enmity between man and man, and believing
as I do in the theory of reincarnation, I live in the hope that if not
in this birth, in some other birth I shall be able to hug all of
humanity in friendly embrace."


Ralph Waldo Emerson:

"The soul comes from without into the human body, as into a temporary
abode, and it goes out of it anew it passes into other habitations, for
the soul is immortal."

"It is the secret of the world that all things subsist and do not die, but only retire a little from sight and afterwards return again.

Nothing is dead; men feign themselves dead, and endure mock funerals and there they stand looking out of the window, sound and well, in some strange new disguise."


General George S. Patton:

"So as through a glass and darkly, the age long strife I see, Where I
fought in many guises, many names, but always me."


Albert Schweitzer:

"Reincarnation contains a most comforting explanation of reality by
means of which Indian thought surmounts difficulties which baffle the
thinkers of Europe."


Walt Whitman:

"I know I am deathless. No doubt I have died myself ten thousand times
before. I laugh at what you call dissolution, and I know the amplitude
of time."


William Wordsworth:

"Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting; The Soul that rises with
us, our life's Star, Hath had elsewhere its setting. And cometh from
afar."


Jalalu Rumi (Islamic Poet of the 13th century):

"I died as a mineral and became a plant, I died as a plant and rose to
animal, I died as animal and I was man. Why should I fear ? When was I
less by dying?"


Carl Jung:

"My life often seemed to me like a story that has no beginning and no
end. I had the feeling that I was an historical fragment, an excerpt
for which the preceding and succeeding text was missing. I could well
imagine that I might have lived in former centuries and there
encountered questions I was not yet able to answer; that I had been
born again because I had not fulfilled the task given to me."


Henry David Thoreau:

"Why should we be startled by death? Life is a constant putting off of
the mortal coil - coat, cuticle, flesh and bones, all old clothes."


Socrates:

"I am confident that there truly is such a thing as living again, that
the living spring from the dead, and that the souls of the dead are in
existence."


Jesus Christ in Gnostic Gospels: Pistis Sophia:

"Souls are poured from one into another of different kinds of bodies of
the world."


Voltaire:

"It is not more surprising to be born twice than once; everything in
nature is resurrection."


Koran:

"God generates beings, and sends them back over and over again, till
they return to Him."


Josephus (most well known Jewish historian from the time of Jesus):

"All pure and holy spirits live on in heavenly places, and in course of
time they are again sent down to inhabit righteous bodies."


Honore Balzac (French writer):

"All human beings go through a previous life... Who knows how many
fleshly forms the heir of heaven occupies before he can be brought to
understand the value of that silence and solitude of spiritual worlds?"


Arthur Schopenhauer (Philosopher):

"Were an Asiatic to ask me for a definition of Europe, I should be
forced to answer him: It is that part of the world which is haunted by
the incredible delusion that man was created out of nothing, and that
his present birth is his first entrance into life."


Paul Gauguin (French post-impressionist painter):

"When the physical organism breaks up, the soul survives. It then takes
on another body."


George Harrison:

"Friends are all souls that we've known in other lives. We're drawn to
each other. Even if I have only known them a day., it doesn't matter.
I'm not going to wait till I have known them for two years, because
anyway, we must have met somewhere before, you know."


Pythagoras:

Among the ancient Greeks, reincarnation was a doctrine closely
associated with the followers of the philosopher and mathematician
Pythagoras. According to Pythagorean teaching, the soul survives
physical death.

After a series of reincarnations each one following a period of psychic
cleansing in spiritual environments the soul becomes free eternally from
the cycle of reincarnations.

Alan
 
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Vinaire

Sponsor
George Harrison:

"Friends are all souls that we've known in other lives. We're drawn to
each other. Even if I have only known them a day., it doesn't matter.
I'm not going to wait till I have known them for two years, because
anyway, we must have met somewhere before, you know."

I think I may have known Bea in a previous life...:unsure: Just kidding.

Anyway, the above is very educational. These were all very educated people. Jesus believed in past lives, but looks like he has been overruled by the Catholic Church which actually follows Aristotle's limited and materialistic logic.

Do you guy's ever wonder where the fixation of Semitic Religions on one life comes from? That will be a good example of hypnosis.

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Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
Do you guy's ever wonder where the fixation of Semitic Religions on one life comes from? That will be a good example of hypnosis.

Hmmm. Zinjifarianism has Zoroasterian roots, especially with turbo-charged RX-7's and thanks to the 'Zs'

Most Scientologists tend to obsess on the 'Roman Catholic Church' and, not 'semitic' religions in general.

Is this a dharmic thang?

I always thought it was about respectability envy...

Zinj
 

Voltaire's Child

Fool on the Hill
I bought some books on Buddhism recently. I read a gorgeous story of a young lama from Tibet who had a servant. The servant left to go home and then was not heard from. The lama made psychic inquiries and found that the guy was ok, then later, that he was dead.

The lama went looking for him.

He came to some area in the Himalayas and softly called the servant's name. A little "himalayan blue sheep" (I assume they are grey with a blueish cast to their wool.) came out and was very glad to see the lama. The lama took him home and he and the sheep were inseparable from then on.

Not only did he recognize the "thetan" when he saw him, but he knew where to find him.

I love stories like that.
 

Vinaire

Sponsor
Do you guy's ever wonder where the fixation of Semitic Religions on one life comes from? That will be a good example of hypnosis.

Hmmm. Zinjifarianism has Zoroasterian roots, especially with turbo-charged RX-7's and thanks to the 'Zs'

Most Scientologists tend to obsess on the 'Roman Catholic Church' and, not 'semitic' religions in general.

Is this a dharmic thang?

I always thought it was about respectability envy...

Zinj


I guess not...

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Bea Kiddo

Crusader
I wonder if its possible though.

I remember auditing a pc on CCRD (Clear Certainty RD) and he gave the materials of the Clearing Course pretty precisely, including the platens, his wins and cogs. At the time, he was determined to be Clear. I remember when he was giving me this information in session, my jaw wanted to drop through the floor. His information was SO accurate I couldn't beleive it. (He was born in 81)

Alan, you ever run into that?
 

Alan

Gold Meritorious Patron
I wonder if its possible though.

I remember auditing a pc on CCRD (Clear Certainty RD) and he gave the materials of the Clearing Course pretty precisely, including the platens, his wins and cogs. At the time, he was determined to be Clear. I remember when he was giving me this information in session, my jaw wanted to drop through the floor. His information was SO accurate I couldn't beleive it. (He was born in 81)

Alan, you ever run into that?

Yes.

Not quite as specific as that.

There are 12 people who had prior Scio careers - 7 are from Australia - 2 are English, 1 is Canadian and 2 are US.

Almost all were Techies - that is trained auditors.

Most born in the late 70's early 80's.

No well known tech people.

Almost all lost their dreams, had too many losses and gave up.

Big resurgences when their dreams rehabbed. :)

Alan
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Terril park

Sponsor
Yes.

Not quite as specific as that.

There are 12 people who had prior Scio careers - 7 are from Australia - 2 are English, 1 is Canadian and 2 are US.

Almost all were Techies - that is trained auditors.

Most born in the late 70's early 80's.

No well known tech people.

Almost all lost their dreams, had too many losses and gave up.

Big resurgences when their dreams rehabbed. :)

Alan

I presume you are just relaying your own experience and knowledge here?

Their is even a forum for " Returnees". Not that busy, but there.
 

Veda

Sponsor
A Few Comments on Reincarnation​

Benjamin Franklin:

"I look upon death to be as necessary to the constitution as sleep. We
shall rise refreshed in the morning."

"And, finding myself to exist in the world, I believe I shall, in some
shape or other always exist."


Jack London, author, best known for book "Call of the Wild":

"I did not begin when I was born, nor when I was conceived. I have been
growing, developing, through incalculable myriads of millenniums. All
my previous selves have their voices, echoes, promptings in me. Oh,
incalculable times again shall I be born."

Napoleon was fond of telling his generals that he believed in the law
of Napoleon reincarnation and even told them who he believed to have
been in Napoleona previous life.


Mark Twain:

"I have been born more times than anybody except Krishna."


Leo Tolstoy:

"As we live through thousands of dreams in our present life, so is our
present life only one of many thousands of such lives which we enter
from the other more real life and then return after death. Our life is
but one of the dreams of that more real life, and so it is endlessly,
until the very last one, the very real the life of God."


Henry Ford:

"I adopted the theory of reincarnation when I was 26. Genius is
experience. Some think to seem that it is a gift or talent, but it is
the fruit of long experience in many lives".


Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, (German poet, playwright and scientist):

"As long as you are not aware of the continual law of Die and Be Again,
you are merely a vague guest on a dark Earth."


Freidrich Nietzsche:

"Live so that thou mayest desire to live again - that is thy duty - for
in any case thou wilt live again!"


Mahatma Gandhi:

"I cannot think of permanent enmity between man and man, and believing
as I do in the theory of reincarnation, I live in the hope that if not
in this birth, in some other birth I shall be able to hug all of
humanity in friendly embrace."


Ralph Waldo Emerson:

"The soul comes from without into the human body, as into a temporary
abode, and it goes out of it anew it passes into other habitations, for
the soul is immortal."

"It is the secret of the world that all things subsist and do not die, but only retire a little from sight and afterwards return again.

Nothing is dead; men feign themselves dead, and endure mock funerals and there they stand looking out of the window, sound and well, in some strange new disguise."


General George S. Patton:

"So as through a glass and darkly, the age long strife I see, Where I
fought in many guises, many names, but always me."


Albert Schweitzer:

"Reincarnation contains a most comforting explanation of reality by
means of which Indian thought surmounts difficulties which baffle the
thinkers of Europe."


Walt Whitman:

"I know I am deathless. No doubt I have died myself ten thousand times
before. I laugh at what you call dissolution, and I know the amplitude
of time."


William Wordsworth:

"Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting; The Soul that rises with
us, our life's Star, Hath had elsewhere its setting. And cometh from
afar."


Jalalu Rumi (Islamic Poet of the 13th century):

"I died as a mineral and became a plant, I died as a plant and rose to
animal, I died as animal and I was man. Why should I fear ? When was I
less by dying?"


Carl Jung:

"My life often seemed to me like a story that has no beginning and no
end. I had the feeling that I was an historical fragment, an excerpt
for which the preceding and succeeding text was missing. I could well
imagine that I might have lived in former centuries and there
encountered questions I was not yet able to answer; that I had been
born again because I had not fulfilled the task given to me."


Henry David Thoreau:

"Why should we be startled by death? Life is a constant putting off of
the mortal coil - coat, cuticle, flesh and bones, all old clothes."


Socrates:

"I am confident that there truly is such a thing as living again, that
the living spring from the dead, and that the souls of the dead are in
existence."


Jesus Christ in Gnostic Gospels: Pistis Sophia:

"Souls are poured from one into another of different kinds of bodies of
the world."


Voltaire:

"It is not more surprising to be born twice than once; everything in
nature is resurrection."


Koran:

"God generates beings, and sends them back over and over again, till
they return to Him."


Josephus (most well known Jewish historian from the time of Jesus):

"All pure and holy spirits live on in heavenly places, and in course of
time they are again sent down to inhabit righteous bodies."


Honore Balzac (French writer):

"All human beings go through a previous life... Who knows how many
fleshly forms the heir of heaven occupies before he can be brought to
understand the value of that silence and solitude of spiritual worlds?"


Arthur Schopenhauer (Philosopher):

"Were an Asiatic to ask me for a definition of Europe, I should be
forced to answer him: It is that part of the world which is haunted by
the incredible delusion that man was created out of nothing, and that
his present birth is his first entrance into life."


Paul Gauguin (French post-impressionist painter):

"When the physical organism breaks up, the soul survives. It then takes
on another body."


George Harrison:

"Friends are all souls that we've known in other lives. We're drawn to
each other. Even if I have only known them a day., it doesn't matter.
I'm not going to wait till I have known them for two years, because
anyway, we must have met somewhere before, you know."


Pythagoras:

Among the ancient Greeks, reincarnation was a doctrine closely
associated with the followers of the philosopher and mathematician
Pythagoras. According to Pythagorean teaching, the soul survives
physical death.

After a series of reincarnations each one following a period of psychic
cleansing in spiritual environments the soul becomes free eternally from
the cycle of reincarnations.

Alan

Excerpt from 'The Act of Creation' by Arthur Koestler:

"At the age of twenty-two, he [Benjamin Franklin] composed a Pythagorean epitaph for himself; at the age of eighty-four, the year of his death, he ordered that it should appear, unchanged, on his tomb. It reads:

The Body
Of
Benjamin Franklin
Printer
(Like the Cover of an Old Book
Its Contents Torn Out
And stript of its Lettering and Gilding)
Lies Here, Food for Worms.
But the Work Shall Not Be Lost
For It Will (As He Believed) Appear Once More
In a New and More Elegant Edition
Revised and Corrected
By
The Author
 

svonhatten

Patron with Honors
Response to Alan and Claire:

:keelover:

Wow! What book, Claire?

And I always liked Ralph W. Emerson, but I never knew he believed that.
 

haiqu

Patron Meritorious
I presume you are just relaying your own experience and knowledge here?

Their is even a forum for " Returnees". Not that busy, but there.

Reference? Don't expect to see many who were in the SO, they're probably worried about that billion year contract.

Later: Never mind, found it through Google.

haiqu
 
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bobo

Guest
Reference? Don't expect to see many who were in the SO, they're probably worried about that billion year contract.

Later: Never mind, found it through Google.

haiqu

I remember a dutch OTVII that told me the SO had tried to recruit him.

He said to me: Its okay, when you first give me all my holidays.

B.
 

haiqu

Patron Meritorious
Note to terril Park

Hi Terril,

I joined "returnees" today, message posted. Seems like a small and quiet group.

haiqu
 

Pascal

Silver Meritorious Patron
I think I may have known Bea in a previous life...:unsure: Just kidding.

Anyway, the above is very educational. These were all very educated people. Jesus believed in past lives, but looks like he has been overruled by the Catholic Church which actually follows Aristotle's limited and materialistic logic.

Do you guy's ever wonder where the fixation of Semitic Religions on one life comes from? That will be a good example of hypnosis.

.

Ron talks about this in the BC tapes. How "Suliman" would trap "djinns" in bottles and cast them into the sea and how the Catholic Church would burn witches and heretics (released OTs). Implanters basically.:mad:
 

Lovesnightsky

Silver Meritorious Patron
There were two people at the org I worked at that had recalled previous experiences with the tech. And yes, they were both training to be auditors.

I was one.

My personal experience was, in my view, not clear of whether it is a previous life recall or having picked up a person's memories via mediumship. I prefer the second reason even though it stinks of denial.

Apparently the CoFs will go to great lengths to substantiate the validity of the memories. Tracing the name and details, retrieving PC folders and such. I'm not sure if this is true as it is something I heard from the other staff member who remembered a previous life in scientology.

My personal experience didn't end too well. The person I recalled did not meet a good end. The information that came out in session ended in sec checks and what I suspect to be the files that went missing from my folders. It was not a good PR recall.

I wonder though about the whole thing. The fact that this person existed is not disputed. However, I have had medium abilities since a very young age so he wasn't necessarily me in a previous incarnation.
Now, this would have been a good and interesting thing for me to go in and investigate.
 
Dang it! I was hoping I'd be able to rest when I was dead. Shoot. Looks like I'm in for it. :mad:

No one says you HAVE to reincarnate back here, dear. Me, I'm making plans for the Spiritual Plane of the Hedonistic Buddhas - Seeking Enlightenment through Wisdom, Love, Sex, & Chocolate.


Mark A. Baker
I like my women like I like my chocolate: dark & bitter, rich & decadent. :coolwink:
 
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