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The “Exact Person” Behind the “Entire Drug Epidemic”

More bizarre news from Denver via IAS Freedom Medal winner Meghan Fialkoff. While Denver HCO are busy trying to ferret out whether anyone in their field is NOT disaffected, they had some pretty remarkable news (though you have to wonder if there was anyone there to hear it). Apparently, like L. Ron Hubbard announcing the […]

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Wilbur

Patron Meritorious
Let me guess. They have isolated the single source of drug pushing in the USA, but before they can reveal his/her identity, the IAS needs to raise $20 million in donations for a legal defence fund. And another $20 million for a new drug-handing expansion building, because 'buildings make booms'.
 

Dave B.

Maximus Ultimus Mostimus
Somewhat on topic... I remember the "Special Briefing" given to me in 2011 by IAS goofball-supreme Ted Bragin; with much ceremony and 'we want you to feel special so we can more easily steal your money from you while you're feeling all special insider and world saver-like." The briefing was the Hubbard PL from 1963 about the "12 SP's trying to stop $cientolgy".

I didn't tell ole Ted that I had already read it and indeed all the wackier Hubbard stuff in my spare time. I used to go to the basement where the file cabinets were with all the original PL's etc. and just read through various stuff. (ca.1984)
I let him do his thing and after when he wanted a "OMG, I feel so special and in the know" reaction from me I told him "Ted, that Policy Letter was written in 1963 those guys are all dead by now." I could see him mentally shifting gears to come up with an answer.

Don't remember exactly what he said, possible because I knew as soon as he started blabbing it was BS. Yet another Red Flag, but as I've mentioned in older posts, I stayed long enough for Ted the IAS clown and other scumbags from ASHO to drain my bank account. Amazing how you see the flaming danger signals but you're sort of hypnotized and cant run away until it's too late.
 

pineapple

Silver Meritorious Patron
I'd be interested to see who they come up with. I'll bet it won't be someone who might actually make some sort of sense; instead it will be someone who represents 1) Anti-scn, or 2) Psychiatry, or 3) Communism. It will be "Wilhelm Wundt" (Hubbard liked to bring him up), or "Karl Marx" or "Mike Rinder" or something crazy like that.

Assess for best read:

Squirrels
Defrocked apostates
Anti-scientologists
Rockslammers
Psychiatry
Psychology
Doctors
Medicine
Brain surgeons
Communism
Socialism

L&N "Who would represent (best-reading item)?

"Your item is," (drum roll) "Viktor Frankenstein!"
 
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programmer_guy

True Ex-Scientologist
In which HCO PL did Hubbard say that you have to find a "who" particular person to blame?
Is this item in the "Why Finder" pack?

I just remember that, amongst other items, you are also supposed to identify a "who".
 
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Gib

Crusader
Somewhat on topic... I remember the "Special Briefing" given to me in 2011 by IAS goofball-supreme Ted Bragin; with much ceremony and 'we want you to feel special so we can more easily steal your money from you while you're feeling all special insider and world saver-like." The briefing was the Hubbard PL from 1963 about the "12 SP's trying to stop $cientolgy".

I didn't tell ole Ted that I had already read it and indeed all the wackier Hubbard stuff in my spare time. I used to go to the basement where the file cabinets were with all the original PL's etc. and just read through various stuff. (ca.1984)
I let him do his thing and after when he wanted a "OMG, I feel so special and in the know" reaction from me I told him "Ted, that Policy Letter was written in 1963 those guys are all dead by now." I could see him mentally shifting gears to come up with an answer.

Don't remember exactly what he said, possible because I knew as soon as he started blabbing it was BS. Yet another Red Flag, but as I've mentioned in older posts, I stayed long enough for Ted the IAS clown and other scumbags from ASHO to drain my bank account. Amazing how you see the flaming danger signals but you're sort of hypnotized and cant run away until it's too late.
In late 2011 that Ted Bragin came to my local org to do a special briefing, I was on course doing the new Objectives co-audit. We was doing it on the weekends, my partner and I. Anyways, here we are listening to this guy in the org with about 30 people there.

Can you believe he said at the on start that if anybody wishes to blow from this briefing why you shouldn't, and he joked about it and gave reasons why, I smelled a reg IAS cycle, and people clapped. I couldn't believe it, this was another reg event which we was not told. Bait and switch.

About a 30 minute into to his speech, I told my partner, I got to leave cuz it takes me a hour to get home, and I have to come back tomorrow for session, so I got to have my 8 hours sleep.

When I got up and left, I looked at Ted, his eyes were something to see, it was terror in his eyes, a prospect is leaving.

A few months later I get the Debbie Cook email and realize something ain't right as I always suspected but couldn't put my finger on it. Debbie Cook got me to realize what I realized but needed confirmation bias, it works both ways. LOL

I write this because of Tony Ortega post today:

https://tonyortega.org/2018/07/14/s...o-church-members-to-get-donations/#more-48530
 

Dave B.

Maximus Ultimus Mostimus
I don't mean to turn this into a bash Ted thread, (I can start one on my own, lol). I've posted this before in more detail but it's too good not to say it again.

During that very same "Special Briefing" Ted was waxing enthusiastically about LRH, and basically said, summing up at the end of his little speech that Hubbard WAS God! I did an actual double take. My head snapped back super-fast like a cartoon. Looking at the insanely rapturous expression on his face I didn't know whether to feel sorry for him or to be scared of his insanity, I probably felt a little of both. It was the strangest look on his face, his eyes were all weird, like a crazy person having a mental orgasm....

..another major red flag.

Ted drank the Kool-Aid, bathes in the Kool-Aid, has the Kool-Aid instead of blood. The dude is wackadoodle batshit crazy.
 
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pineapple

Silver Meritorious Patron
In which HCO PL did Hubbard say that you have to find a "who" particular person to blame?
Is this item in the "Why Finder" pack?

I just remember that, amongst other items, you are also supposed to identify a "who".
I was thinking of an S&D, where you're listing for an SP. If the pc comes up with a group, you do a "represent list" to get it down to a person.
Search and Discovery as a process is done exactly by the general rules of listing.
One lists for persons or groups who are or have suppressed the pc. The list is complete
when only one item reads on nulling and this is the item.

If the item turns out to be a group, one does a second list of who or what would
represent that group, gets the list long enough to leave on nulling only one item
reading, and that is the SP.

An incident is not a person or a group.

A condition is not a person or a group. And a group is not a person, what you
want is one being.
-- HCO BULLETIN OF 24 NOVEMBER 1965 "LEVEL IV, SEARCH AND DISCOVERY"

http://www.tep-online.info/laku/usa/reli/scien/SECRETDOX/1965_69.PDF
 

programmer_guy

True Ex-Scientologist
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