Who thought well of LRH ?

[Auditor's Toad]

Yes, of his contemporaries who thought well of LRH ?

He had school teachers, college professors, flight instructors, publishers, partners, fellow writers, boy scout officals, navy officers, movie producers, music industry moguls, agents, and others around him - so who that knew him thought well of him ? Even his own parents, aunts, uncles, cousins ?

Skip the followers of his 'religion'. Skip the later PR campains to people and organizations who didn't know him from Adams' old house cat.

As he became so famous worldwide surely people flocked out of the woodwork claiming to be his long list friend 'who knew him when'.

Names? Dates ?

Surely this is destined to become a long thread with many names and deeds!

 

[anonomog]

Yes, of his contemporaries who thought well of LRH ?

He had publishers, partners, fellow writers, boy scout officals, navy officers, movie producers, music industry moguls, agents, and others around him - so who that knew him thought well of him ? Even his own parents ?

Skip the followers of his 'religion'. Skip the later PR campains to people and organizations who didn't know him from Adams' old house cat.

As he became so famous worldwide surely people flocked out of the woodwork claiming to be his long list friend 'who knew him when'.

Names? Dates ?

Surely this is destined to become a long thread with many names and deeds!

I would imagine a wife would know quite a lot about her husband:

Sara Northup Divorce papers

(a) That during the marriage up until the month of
October, 1950, said Hubbard, an "older man" completely dominated
the youthful plaintiff, both physically, mentally and emotionally
and taking advantage of her trusting love and desire for a success-
ful marriage, repeatedly subjected plaintiff to systematic torture,
including loss of sleep, beatings, and strangulations and scientific
torture experiments, including the following:

(b) That in the latter part of September, 1950, said
Hubbard told plaintiff at the Chateau Marmont Apartments in
Hollywood, that "I do not want to be an American husband for I
can buy my friends whenever I want them", and he further said
that he, Hubbard, did not want to be married, yet divorce was
impossible, for a divorce would hurt his reputation, and that
she, plaintiff, should kill herself if she really loved him.

(c) That at said time and place, said Hubbard systemati-
cally prevented plaintiff from sleeping continuously for a period
of over four days, and then in her agony, furnished her with a
supply of sleeping pills, all resulting in a nearness to the
shadow of death. That the foregoing was a frequent occurence [sic]
during the married life of the parties.

(d) That at said time and place, plaintiff became numb
and lost consciousness, and was thereafter taken by said Hubbard to
the Hollywood Leland Hospital, where she was kept under a vigilant
guard from friend and family under an assumed name, for five
days.

(e) That shortly following Christmas, 1950, said Hubbard

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violently strangled plaintiff and sadistically ruptured the
eustachian tube of her left ear, resulting in the impairment of
her hearing. That such strangulation of plaintiff was a frequent
practice on the part of said Hubbard.

(f) That in January, 1951, at Palm Springs, while
plaintiff was getting out of an automobile operated by said Hubbard
he intentionally started the said car in gear, thus propelling
plaintiff to the pavement resulting in serious personal injury.

(g) That plaintiff and her medical advisors, following
the foregoing incidents, concluded that said Hubbard was hopelessly
insane, and crazy, and that there was no present hope for said
Hubbard, or any reason for her to indure [sic] further; that competent
medical advisors recommended that said Hubbard be committed to
a private sanitarium for psychiatric observation and treatment
of a mental ailment known as paranoid schizophrenia; that
plaintiff, on the 23rd day of February, 1951, caused the national
executive officer of the Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation at
Elizabeth, New Jersey, to be advised of said preliminary diagnosis
and urgent need for treatment; that said national officer immedi-
ately advised said Hubbard of said diagnosis.

http://www.ronthenut.org/northrup.htm

She was supported at the time by Hubbard's first wife, Polly, who wrote an unsolicited letter to Sara to confirm the allegations made against Ron:

Sara, if I can help in any way, I'd like to ... You must get Alexis in your custody. Ron is not normal. I had hoped you could straighten him out. Your charges probably sound fantastic to the average person, but I've been through it - the beatings, threats on my life, all the sadistic traits which you charge - 12 years of it.

http://www.spaink.net/cos/LRH-bio/sara_bg.htm

Sara Northup to Paulette Cooper

Mar 20, 1972

Dear Paulette [Cooper],

Thank you for sending the photostat of the column concerning Ron.

I really think he is a terribly destructive man - and mad as a hatter.

Last fall a couple of men came here to my home on Maui (Hawaii). They looked like undertakers' assistants. They were very pale - wore cheap black suits, white shirts, dark ties.

They told me they were "agents", but they wouldn't tell me what, or who, they were agents for. They wouldn't show me any identification. They had a long list of personal questions to ask me and they had a "warning" to give me. They told me that people posing as reporters might try to get me to talk about Ron but I would be in trouble if I said anything at all to them.

They wanted to come in the house but I wouldn't let them. I told them I wouldn't speak with them unless they came with identification. They said they'd "check with headquarters and be back this evening". I never saw them again.

My older daughter [Alexis Valerie] (who is Ron's daughter) was home over the holidays. When she arrived back at college there was a man who had been waiting for her in the local inn. He had been there 3 or 4 days.

She asked him to come to her Dorm to talk with him. He told her he was Ron's agent. He had several typewritten pages of "statements" to read her. It had obviously been written by Ron.

It said to her that she was illegitimate - that I was a "street-walker" he had hired as a combination housekeeper-secretary. He said that he fired me and that I came back to his doorstep "destitute and pregnant" and that out of his great heart he had taken me in to see me "through my trouble".

He said that when Alexy was a "Toddler" she was a cute little thing so he took her and a cat, "Motor Boat", along on his wanderings "as pets" for 2 years.

[Alexy was 15 months old when we were divorced]

He also said that during World War II I was a Nazi spy. (He used to tell people that I was a Communist spy who received orders from Moscow by telepathic control). I don't know why he had me change sides.

He said that I had been "used by those in control to discredit Mr. Hubbard." He said he forgave me but it made him very sad.

The paper was signed, "Your good friend, J. Edgar Hoover". The agent told Alexy he was an F.B.I. agent. He would not allow her to inspect it - would only read it to her. At the end he asked her if she had any questions.

She was both angry and shocked that Ron could do such a thing. She told him - "the agent" - it was self-explanatory and asked him to leave. She has had a feeling that her father was a rather romantic figure. These paranoid ravings were frightening to her. She had not realized how sick he was before this incident.

I was furious that he would try to hurt Alexy - I wrote him a long letter telling him what I thought of him for inflicting his madness on Alexy but before I sent it Alexy called and begged me to do nothing. She said, quite rightly, that he was crazy enough to do anything. She asked me to just be thankful that we had escaped contact through all these years.

I really don't know why this recent interest on his part.

Last summer Alexy was in England and dropped by St. Annes Hill [Saint Hill Manor?] - she thought perhaps she could share dinner with him. She was naturally curious about him. She didn't see him.

Maybe he thinks she's going to sue him for back child-support? Maybe he thinks she's going to demand a portion of his estate? Maybe - - - ? I just don't know. Maybe he just resents the fact that I left him.

I hope that when you win your court case, as you must, that you collect court costs and reparations.

His sickness is not just destructive, it is also contagious. I hate to think how many weak people have been harmed by this man.

The day of my divorce from Ron was like a day of rebirth for me. I feel that Alexy and I escaped from a death-in-life situation.

I am really afraid of him. He has such control over his people - and so many of them - that even from England he could do something to hurt Alexy. You have no idea the lengths to which he can go (or, maybe you do?).

These visits from his "agents" are just warnings. The two who came to see me told me as much. It is really frightening not knowing what he might do next.

I had hoped that he had forgotten us - put us out of his mind. Perhaps he thinks I will testify against him in one of the many court cases?

Forgive this rambling letter. I never tell anyone that I was married to Ron - so I have no one to tell about these weird visits. I know you are concerned about Ron so you have the recipients of my meanderings on the subject.

I'm sorry that I never met you. Please do write and tell me what happens with your case. Ron has the advantage of money - but you have rationality on your side. Surely that must be more important.

http://www.ronthenut.org/northrup.htm


Yep he definitely was quite a catch

 

[shadow]

From the view of a 12-year old on ship off the coast of Greece with Hubbard (not an adult contemporary that would have life experiences to view a person from). He remembers a man who kindly shared information about pocket knives with an interested 12-year old; and a man in charge of thugs who threatened that 12-year old with being thrown off ship without his family if he did not sign a billion year contract.

That 12-year old drifted away from course work and auditing while his family became deeply immersed. Most of them have died, left, or are only in the periphery of Scn at this time.

 

[Auditor's Toad]

Of L Ron Hubbards known 7 children, haven't only Nibs & Quentin passed on?

Much of any comments recently from his children about him?

And it seem in his time as head of his Church that some people under him rose to prominence in the Church and remained all through the years - who are they and where are they?

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

TESTIMONIALS​

- in support of Ron's good character and deeds -
​

"Thanks Ron, all the Ethics & Justice tech materials that you sent me each week really helped make my incarceration in a federal penitentiary so much more pleasant!" ML, Mary Sue.​

"Thanks Ron. If you had not helped me with your tech, I never could have made it to Target II so quickly!" ML, Quentin ​

 

[Auditor's Toad]

Damn, HH, you left out a success story from Charlie Manson :confused2:

 

[Mick Wenlock]

apparently L Ron Hubbard was the biggest (and only) fan of L Ron Hubbard. Most everyone else seems to think he was a vaguely dishonest gasbag who exploited women.