Yeh, that was Travolta alright. I never thought of it that way, but that was a big deal to Hubbard, getting Travolta to be his front celebrity persona.
I go easy on Travolta because I think he's wised up a bit since then. He was one of the last "still in's" to talk to the Presley family and they are out. There are a few other celebrity names who were friends with JT who have left since, too. He's not the same diehard he once was, for sure. He doesn't even tell people he's a Scientologist anymore AFAIK.
Oh yah, ElRon loved others' interpretations. He did it with the old ACC (remember the PL "Old ACC Students" that awarded them free reviews forever because he mucked up their minds so badly?) I used to hear stories from old-timers on the old ACC who came up with ideas that later, Hubbard claimed as his. Those were probably the best nuggets of Scientology, but never, ever qualified as research. Brain testing on unknowing subjects would be a better description. Those poor guys were really messed up. RogerB can tell you - he's one of the few still around that really knows what it was like.
He stole everything that was half decent, and always added a twist to it. I'd love to hear your stories of what you heard from Eubank. MOORE, please!
I used to watch Dillard Eubank walk through the course room and the overhead fluorescent lights would surge and flash when he walked under each one, I never ever saw that happen with anyone else. I hadn't been introduced to him as of yet and as I was introverted around OT's because I thought they could see my case, I hesitated to connect with him. He was old OT7.
One day I was doing emeter drills with a staff member auditor in a side room to the academy and Dillard and Lucille Surber were just outside our door, she was also an old OT7, who's claim to fame was that she had a hard time staying in her head and went out and about exterior with full perceptions all the time. Suddenly I saw a transparent round orb come through the doorway, about the size of a beach ball, and "it" came towards the other guy and I and passed between us just above the table, Mike Gallagher was his name, and he looked at "it" and said "look, a thetan". The floating orb suddenly went past us, turned left and went out the window 8 stories up.
I was thought of as being keyed out OT after some incidents, one where I knocked about 60 of 90 cork squares off a wall that I had just glued up on a wall when I was on volunteer staff. The ED, Bob Kuyper, had walked up and said they were on the wrong wall and I turned towards them and felt a huge surge of energy go out and knocked 2/3 of them off the wall all at once, he laughed hysterically. There were no other causative factors involved.
Later I was painting the upstairs reception area and a guy wiped his paintbrush on my arm as a joke so I waited to get him back. I saw him across the lobby talking with a gal he had a crush on and I loaded my brush with white paint, threw it at him and it went bristles first into his mouth with paint running out the corners of his mouth and the handle sticking out. It was about a 25 foot throw, so my reputation was born as you know how rumors fly, but I could always hit what I threw at as I'd been a woodsman since I could walk and threw rocks all the time and could sometimes hit flying birds.
So suddenly I had Dillard start a conversation with me.
He told me he was a licensed psychologist which I found odd due to his being a Scientologist. But I was growing disillusioned with Scientology, largely due to the rising costs, and the senior cs sat me down to explain how much it would cost me to get up the bridge and wanted me to join staff saying it would cut my costs down to an affordable level, I had never considered the immense cost of setups in addition to advertised costs.
So I decided that I was done as I was NOT about to go through the hell of even a 2 1/2 year contract being that it was more than likely impossible that I'd be able to recruit my replacement after. Too few people training to be auditors, luckily I'd bought my training package back when it was $1,300.
Then I start running into former members who had copies of all the OT levels they were handing out.
One of them tells me to call Dillard. I called him and he had me over and offered to audit me all the way up the bridge and that he would only bill my health insurance for standard counseling costs. I almost went for it but by then I didn't see much in the OT levels that I thought would be worth the amount of time and effort it would take to undertake such a regimen.
Dillard went on and on about the old days at St. Hill, and how Hubbard stole who Dillard was courting as his own girlfriend, Mary Sue Whipp. Dillard had been seeing her, strictly platonic though he was working on it becoming more. So he thought "I know, I'll take her over and introduce her to Ron to impress her" as she was now on lines. So he did.
Dillard and Mary Sue left together and when he called her in a couple of days that dirty bastard Hubbard had already stolen her away and she told Dillard she couldn't see him as she was now seeing Ron. Dillard was crestfallen but thought "better to lose her to Ron than some ordinary Joe". That's all I remember except of course that he told me about how Ron stole the grades and other portions of the tech from his minions who he would assign "research projects" to, based largely on their past experience with other practices, of all things.
I just remember what a gentleman Dillard was, how calm and at peace he seemed. Of course he was later declared, but what else is new?
I'm glad that Travolta has seen the light though he has probably considered the consequences of speaking out about it.
There, I think this was my longest post ever.