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Babycakes

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I love your poem, Babycakes - and thank you for sharing. :yes::hug: It represents well your condition at that moment in time... :cloud9:

For whatever reasons, your poem, for me, leads into this favorite of mine - which has a story of its own (for another time, perhaps)... that said, I feel total confidence that you will see the possible connections. :wink2:

(Poem #608) The Spider's Web:

The spider, dropping down from twig,
Unfolds a plan of her devising,
A thin premeditated rig
To use in rising.

And all that journey down through space,
In cool descent and loyal hearted,
She spins a ladder to the place
From where she started.

Thus I, gone forth as spiders do
In spider's web a truth discerning,
Attach one silken thread to you
For my returning.


E. B. White

EP :)


Thank you, EP. That is such a beautiful poem; I love the idea of "Attach one silken thread to you
For my returning." Lovely. :yes:
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Just for shits and giggles, here's one of the "poems" I wrote on the plane trip home from St. Hill in 1967. I will say that I was feeling quite wonderful after the Clearing course -- very up, open to anything, strong, maybe even happy.

It's okay to laugh at it...I certainly do.

I tasted Infinity


I tasted Infinity
Now it's mine
I hear it's secrets
It's moans and indignities,
and I listen,
understand, and know these miseries,
Yet leave them below.

I await with infinite patience as you
climb the ladder to comprehension --
Infinity


Huh. There are more, but let's see how much guffawing this one generates before bringing out another one.

:) who is the 'you' at the end of the poem? The collective 'you'?
 

Babycakes

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:) who is the 'you' at the end of the poem? The collective 'you'?

Hi Mary,
Yes, I think it was about believing that scientology would bring everyone up to some higher level and I'd achieved it (in part, anyway) and was watching from above. Most of the other poems are kind of like that.
 
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Babycakes

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Time to wrap it up

It's blueberry season here and we've been soooo busy (we have 8 huge blueberry bushes) -- picking, freezing, baking, etc. Whew! Want to come over for blueberry pancakes? We're even having them for dinner these days.

The end of the story:

We lived in Clearwater for 3 years -- Spring 2005 - Spring 2008. Which was 3 years too long. Every day we'd open the front door, look out, and shrug, "Crap, it's still Florida." I had put some money on account at Flag and went to see about getting started. Not easy to get anything done around there unless you have your checkbook out. Then, everybody's your best friend and will get you going ASAP. First stop, Ethics. Seems somebody there didn't like the results of the conditions I'd done way back at AO and wanted them re-done. OK. Actually, I did a long write-up about all the stuff we'd done with Way to Happiness, VMs, auditing, and helping the San Diego Org with their Ideal Org boogie, and after about three weeks, I finally heard back that it was ok'd. Great, now I get the auditing. The C/S had a big Advance Program all laid out for me. Wait, what? I'd just done a big Advance Program at AOLA. Hmmm...seems Flag has different Ad. Progs. from AO's programs. Why would that be?

I don't remember much, but I DO remember the tailor-made FPRD. Because I'd worked with Hubbard, they came up with all kinds of questions having to do with hurting, lying to, cheating, doing bad things to Hubbard. Oh. My. God. Whatever. I had to come clean about that stupid compass cover that I hid in the Bosun's Locker. Fine, now you know. Eventually I was sent to Qual for some kind of interview. The person doing it seemed uncomfortable and was tippy-toeing around, not quite saying what she wanted to say. I got so frustrated I finally asked her, "Are you trying to tell me I'm not Clear?" She was so relieved. Yup, not Clear. And I just realized today as I was thinking about writing this, how did they come up with that? They had never found my folders and I'd done the Clearing Course and attested at Saint Hill. They never explained it. But now, looking back and putting the pieces together, I believe they really had no idea at all about whether I was Clear or not -- it was a good way to get me to buy more intensives. Which I did. Next up was NED. Maybe the reasoning behind 'not clear' was that I'd never done any Dianetics. None. Nada. Not even Book One and certainly not NED. Boy, I hated that! Hated it. It just ground on and on. And I said so, every session. "This is not helping, I hate this, I can't do this." And so on. Finally the C/S had a cognition and let me off the NED. The auditor asked me a listing question, and boom! we were done and I was Clear. Whoopee. It wasn't anything like the first time when I felt so fantastic. I was truly flying when I left St. Hill. It didn't last long, but at the time it was absolutely the best thing that had ever happened to me.

I didn't get any more auditing at Flag. We'd run out of money, thank God. Actually we still had some, but we weren't telling anybody about it. We were putting money on account from time to time for Kim to do OT V, which he'd already paid for twice and been detoured. To actually make progress on the "bridge" would have been a very very big deal. Don't they want to deliver what they promised? Guess not.

The bottom started to drop out soon after that. We'd go to events and be chased out of our seats because some mucky-muck wanted them. We were regged heavily for SuperPower, IAS, OT Committee, advance payments, CCHR, ABLE. It never stopped. One night Howard Becker and Michael
Roberts showed up at our front door. Pretty weird since they're West coast IAS freaks. But there they were in all their paranoid glory. Had we invited them? Were we expecting them late at night? Hell no. We were dumb enough to let them in. We'd had experience with Becker and knew he liked to lay it on thick. So I told him what I really thought (for a change), which was, "How come all these emergencies never get taken care of? Why do they keep coming up? Why don't we ever see any indication in the media that all the stuff you're doing is being noticed? No-one ever hears anything after you raise all that money for whatever the project du jour is and then it just drops off the edge of the earth. What's that about?" He was veeeery good. Didn't bat an eyelash. Smiled. Rambled on using scieno baffle-gab for a bit and then said how much $$$ he needed that minute for that week's dire critical crucial grave momentous earth-changing crisis. We wrote a check for a few hundred dollars. He tried hard to get more, but we were done with him. Our response: Take it or leave it.

Somewhere around this time, Kim got an email from his daughter saying Jeff wanted to let us know he was "out" and how to contact him if we wanted to. IF WE WANTED TO??!! Yikes! Kim got in touch immediately and wanted the whole story. Jeff went easy and didn't unload everything all at once. He was being careful in case we were still true-blue bubble-heads. He was "protecting" us. Huh. We made a trip to San Diego and spent a day with Jeff, hearing a little more about what was going on. When we got back to Clearwater, one of our friends had been kicked out of Flag -- persona non gratis or something. She asked us if we'd go to an event with her because no one else would. We said "Of course we'll go with you, you're our friend." At Ruth Eckert Hall she was denied entrance. We were dumbfounded. Another WTF moment. So we took her home and had a lovely dessert and watched a good movie. She has since disconnected from us -- even though Flag is the Mecca of Technical Perfection All Glorious and Hallowed, they couldn't get her through KTL and LOC. The San Diego Org had sent her to Flag because THEY couldn't deal with her. AND SHE STILL THOUGHT SCIENTOLOGY WAS SOME SORT OF ANSWER FOR HER!

Butsoanyway. A huge pile of little things finally tipped us. I was happy the end was coming, it was miserable being in Florida and I was getting more and more hostile towards cos. One day I called Jeff and asked him to tell me all of it. He did. And he'd already told Kim a lot of it. Now Kim and I were on the same page. It was all crap, lies, a big con. And, on top of that, the head of the whole disgusting circus was a maniac and a bully. OK.

Jeff told us about Mick Wenlock's XSO group. We joined with phony names and started chatting with other XSOs. Soooo interesting. Well, I posted something that apparently was traceable to me -- that is, a story that would have to have come from me. OSA sent someone to our house with printouts of our posts. She said we had to stop being on that board and we had to stop talking to Jeff. ORLY?! We laughed. And laughed and laughed and laughed. "You want us to choose YOU over JEFF?!" Come on. Do your worst sister. Nobody fucks with this family. Nobody.

And then we were out. Done. No more regges (except for the poor slobs who didn't get the memo). No more stupid committee meetings. No more volunteering at CCHR. No more dumb seminars put on by worn-out OTs.

Yes, we got all our money back -- even some we'd forgotten about (an old Freewinds account). It was fast and easy.

It took another year for our house to sell because of the market crash, but we left Florida. When we crossed the state line into Georgia, we opened a bottle of champagne.

Now we're free.
 

omnom

Patron with Honors
Nobody fucks with this family. Nobody.

I was waiting for that, especially after reading it from the other side at Counterfeit Dreams. It makes me smile reading it from either end, and glad that everyone kept their family as close as possible.
:happydance:


Also, hooray blueberries!
 

Babycakes

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I was waiting for that, especially after reading it from the other side at Counterfeit Dreams. It makes me smile reading it from either end, and glad that everyone kept their family as close as possible.
:happydance:


Also, hooray blueberries!


I know! How bizarre that someone thinks they can show up on your door and you're going to bend over and take it up the arse. FOR WHAT????!

And on a lighter note:
Want some pancakes? Come on down. :happydance:
 

SchwimmelPuckel

Genuine Meatball
I know! How bizarre that someone thinks they can show up on your door and you're going to bend over and take it up the arse. FOR WHAT????!

And on a lighter note:
Want some pancakes? Come on down. :happydance:
Nahh.. What's bizarre is that those 'someones' (The Sinister Scam Cult of Scientology) actually CAN show up at the parishoners doors and have 'em bend over.. They do it routinely.. And the scientologists politely ask which way to jump and donate all their money too.. That's really bizarre!

What you did is a nice little extraordinary sunshine story! :) - But such will not happen before a scientologist has discovered the scam...

:yes:
 

Lurker5

Gold Meritorious Patron
Me too

I LOVE your story Babycakes.

I am a sucker for stories with happy endings.:yes:


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I love your story too, Babycakes, and I am a sucker for happy endings - Love your style - your humor - your love of family. :thumbsup: :clap: :bravo:
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
Thanks for the story babycakes. The best part for me is that your 'out' is really 'out' :) Doesn't even sound like you have much of a hangover.

Just blueberries :)

Zinj
 

Babycakes

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I'm loving this story, Babycakes! :)

Thanks. I've learned a lot in telling it -- and got over the worst of the fear about putting it out there. It's good to move on, right? I'm sure I'll go through more layers before I feel really at peace with it all. that's ok.

BTW, love your name.
 

Babycakes

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Nahh.. What's bizarre is that those 'someones' (The Sinister Scam Cult of Scientology) actually CAN show up at the parishoners doors and have 'em bend over.. They do it routinely.. And the scientologists politely ask which way to jump and donate all their money too.. That's really bizarre!

What you did is a nice little extraordinary sunshine story! :) - But such will not happen before a scientologist has discovered the scam...

:yes:

You're right SP! And I was one of them (the ones who politely ask which way to jump) -- until I cleared my head. lol

There are so many different ways a scientologist can wake up. For us the tipping point was a combination of Jeff's story, the OSA spying on the yahoo group and the presumption that we would blithely choose to not talk to someone in our family. As we hear the stories, we begin to understand what it takes to truly enlighten a bubble-head. I haven't read your story yet -- what was your tipping point?
 

Babycakes

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I LOVE your story Babycakes.

I am a sucker for stories with happy endings.:yes:


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Does it go without saying that anyone who ends up here has a story with a happy ending? Maybe, maybe not. I haven't read all the stories, but the stories wouldn't be here if the teller hadn't left the cos. Right?

And thank you for your encouragement, very much appreciated. There's nothing worse than blabbing and blathering along and looking around to an empty room.
 

Babycakes

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I love your story too, Babycakes, and I am a sucker for happy endings - Love your style - your humor - your love of family. :thumbsup: :clap: :bravo:

Thank you for sticking with it to the very end. If not for your acceptance and the pats on the back, it would have been pretty much impossible to keep at it. This is a good place. I think I'll hang around for a while.
 

Babycakes

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Thanks for the story babycakes. The best part for me is that your 'out' is really 'out' :) Doesn't even sound like you have much of a hangover.

Just blueberries :)

Zinj

Thank you Zinj for reading it. I'd like to spend my time here reading all the other stories now.

re: hangover. Not so much. But I'm still a searcher, still hoping to find ways to deal with emotional issues, spiritual questions. scientology has no lure for me -- I can't even abide the jargon. I got an email from an ex-scn who was commiserating with me about something and said she was having to learn "how to talk like a wog." That was a WTF moment for me. I'll ask her if she was kidding. I hope she was, because otherwise I don't know WHAT to say to her.

The offer of pancakes still stands...any takers?
 

omnom

Patron with Honors
I'm superbly tempted - it sounds like good food and good company. Unfortunately, I'm headed out of town on business, and won't be back until next weekend - if you still have blueberries then, I'll scurry on over. To be honest, even if you don't I'd still love to say "Hi." :)
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
:) who is the 'you' at the end of the poem? The collective 'you'?

Hi Mary,
Yes, I think it was about believing that scientology would bring everyone up to some higher level and I'd achieved it (in part, anyway) and was watching from above. Most of the other poems are kind of like that.

Thanks. I recall looking at people from that perspective when I was a member. I think it's a byproduct of training and auditing :whistling:

(snip) Now we're free.

This post really demonstrates the pathetic state scientology has become and the experiences you and your husband went through prove that members are held by a frayed rope. I hope others read it and it inspires others to stand up and say 'enough is enough'.

Enjoy your freedom and your blueberry pancakes! I'll have to take a raincheck for now :)
 

SchwimmelPuckel

Genuine Meatball
You're right SP! And I was one of them (the ones who politely ask which way to jump) -- until I cleared my head. lol

There are so many different ways a scientologist can wake up. For us the tipping point was a combination of Jeff's story, the OSA spying on the yahoo group and the presumption that we would blithely choose to not talk to someone in our family. As we hear the stories, we begin to understand what it takes to truly enlighten a bubble-head. I haven't read your story yet -- what was your tipping point?
Joining the Guardian's Office was the tipping point.. Within 14 days.. And that from studying the policies. The 'welcoming' course called GO Orientation did it..

Well, not the whole way.. I stayed in for 1,5 years, blew and was a very skeptical and unwilling scilon for 5 years more. Before that I'd been reading books and discussing scientology with my scilon freinds.. But stayed clear of the org.. Heh.. Frankly it was too 'religious' for me. Then in 1979 I decided to become an auditor. Bought the NED course and Student hat bundled.

Story is here: OCMB / How the hell did I ever buy that shit?

:yes:
 
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