Nobody EVER "gets it" or benefits by telling them how he or she is "wrong".
None of us posters get it Vin when you tell us, and you surely don't get it when any of us tell you.
So, why do people endlessly bother to try to
adjust the viewpoints of others by clarifying how and why the other is "wrong"? :confused2:
But they do it.
I have lost interest in much of that game - whether about Scientology or anything else.
Here is my current view (and it will surely change as the sun rises and sets).
There is no absolute truth. None that you or me will "know", "perceive" or "understand". There are only a near infinite number of relative truths.
I like how Einstein explains the theory of relativity. In his view, there is no actual "what is it really". There is ONLY and ALWAYS what APPEARS to be real based on the condition, state, or "view" of the observer in relation to what is observed. The observer
directly affects what is observed by the state or condition of the observer. This seems to be as true from a psychological view as it is true from a physics view.
We are each a very unique viewpoint, with a very different slant on all that is. We each have a very different past and totality of experience that "conditions", "modifies" or creates our dynamically changing viewpoint (whether that experience is made of one life, many lives or a near infinite number of "lives"). We each also have a very finite and extremely limited package of experiences to draw from. Sure, we each do our best, but it is what it is.
Here is my current spiritual theory - and I am sure it will also change in a day or a week, or whatever. But, whether accurate, valid or not, I do not push it on anyone else. I care little whether anyone agrees, because I truly feel what I am describing here. Each viewpoint cannot ever be the same as any other viewpoint, and none can ever really "understand" the other, not as YOU DO. And that is the value.
You are entirely unique and you are a universe unto yourself. But, so is everybody else! Each is valid - at least from the viewpoint of "all that is" (aka God, the Absolute, Universal Consciousness, etc).
So, here is my current nutty view:
There is one consciousness that created it all - the "creator". Call it "God", or call it whatever you want. One aspect of this is that the creator has a desire to experience every aspect of the creation, from top to bottom, down to the smallest, and up unto the largest, from every angle, in every way, at every point in time. That is where you and I become involved. Limited and finite points of consciousness, such as you and I, exist to see, feel, and experience some aspect of
all that is. As such, we are "tentacles" of God, and there are a near infinite number of tentacles.
But, in a strange way He is We and We are He. And, I am you, and you are me . . . . . . . maybe . . . . .
I have lost interest in the "content" of my own and others' viewpoints - at least from the aspect of arguing, making them wrong, fighting, etc.
To the degree that one forgets or ignores that he or she is actually "part" of the one great creator, and that there is only ONE, to that degree do differences, separation and all the rest of the difficulties of life exist for that person.
No single isolated viewpoint, no single isolated religion, or simply stated, no single isolated anything contains the "whole truth". The "whole truth" involves
all the many many MANY viewpoints taken together as a whole. That makes up the "body of God" (as it were - sorry for the metaphor).
Whatever the "truth" is (meaning the actual reality of whatever we actually are, what the universe actually is, what created it, what our relationship is to that creator,
ad infinitum), neither you nor me can change it, and neither you nor me will probably get very close to a superb understanding of it any time soon. So, why bother trying to get others to agree or see it your way or make them wrong and so forth?
But, few people can honestly acknowledge that really, deep down, fundamentally, none of us have a fucking clue - outside of personal illusion and some strange desire to "be right above all else".
Damn, if only Grade 4 REALLY worked, and could actually get a person to lose all desire to "be right"!!!!!!
Here is an example of a recent experience that may help a bit on whatever it was I just tried to explain.
I live on a mountain, surrounded by about 200 acres of forest. It's nice. It is absolutely beautiful and serene. I often go for long walks, and practice "being there". Simply, be there with all of my perceptions (external and internal), with a gentle aim to silent all internal thinking and attention. I get pretty good at it sometimes, and other times I suck at it. Anyway, last week I was looking at a wonderful scene of mountains, and hills, stretching for about 30 miles, with the sounds of many birds, a few dogs barking far away, a cool breeze, a lively smell of "earth" in the air - you get the idea. I "snapped" for awhile, and became it all. Total silence. BANG! I lost all awareness of "myself", all "inner attention" vanished, and "I" was just "there" with the external environment. I suppose it could be called a "mystical experience". It was not ordinary, or something I am conscious of on a routine daily basis. I was lost in it (in a good way).
But also, and this is the key part, I have been playing a self-created game to "follow the line back to God" in my awareness. The way I decided to do that was to acknowledge the Creator of all that is, to thank the "creator", to fully recognize His/Her part in making it all possible, as I experience some aspect of this amazing creation (the universe). This involves a very interesting form of "mental multi-tasking" of ones awareness. It is not "thinking", but more an "action" of awareness. I did that as I was lost in the experience.
I swear I made contact - on whatever small degree. But like these things go, what is "real" and what is hallucinatory?
In the end I don't think it matters, as long as one
removes all desire to get others to see it the same way. THAT is the bane of humanity. It is what destroyed Christianity. It has destroyed every religion ever to walk this planet. The damned urge to recruit, to proselytize, to feel and believe (stupidly) that ONLY YOUR HANDLE ON IT ALL is right, and that everyone else is wrong.
There are as many ways to see it as there are viewpoints. And, each is totally and completely "right".
The person who has truly gotten THAT, as a living reality, has possibly moved a notch "out" and closer to something a bit more grand.
As Einstien so brilliantly explained, the "truth" or "reality" is solely determined by the INTERACTION of an observer (you) with all that is or with some aspect of the universe. There is no truth outside of that. THAT is the truth . . . . . .
And, every viewpoint is "right" from where it looks, based on the total package of experiences, education, etc. Every tentacle of God is valid. But, none contain or can ever contain and possess the "total truth".
Oh, I forgot, except for Alanzo. Of course, he is always right!
LOL
Fuck me. I am sorry. As usual this is WAY too long for most people to bother reading through.
Oh, and just possibly a great deal of UNCIVILIZED BEHAVIOR is caused by this
slimy (my judgment that it is "slimy" and NOT a good thing) desire/urge/inclination/tendency to get others to believe it and see it and feel it just exactly like YOU do! Or like your religion does. Or like your political party does. Or as your race does. Or as your sex does. Or as your . . . . . . does . . .
As Dave Mason said in a great song on a great album - many years ago:
"But I'm happy just to be a part of all I see"
I make it a point to rejoice in the wonder of just being so lucky as to BE HERE each and every day. And to thank whoever and whatever made it all, and enabled "me" to be here to exeprience some aspect of it all.
The universe is amazing!
THAT is what currently makes up my "religion".
