[edit: copied from original thread. these are emails exchanged between Plymouth Org and myself several months after I left. The main objective of these emails were to get me to pay up what is called a freeloader account, basically any “free” training and auditing a staff member receives.]
--- plymouth <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear XXXX,
>
> Hello how are you doing?
>
> I am now the OES and one of my hats is to collect
> money owed to the org.
>
> I have not had much to do with your cycle since you
> went off auditing lines,
> so basically I wanted to get in comm and find out
> what your plans are with
> regard to your Freeloader bill and future bridge?
>
> It seems that you are settled over there and
> planning to stay there so why
> not pay off your debt so that we can release your
> folders and you can get
> on lines at your nearest org?
>
> Please let me know your honest thoughts on this.
>
> Yours Sincerely
>
> Mark Goddard
>
>
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Thu, 3 Nov 2005 17:52:29 +0000 (GMT)
Hi Mark,
Congratulations on your new post!
I've been hearing great things about the org and all
of you, well done.
I don't have a job at the moment and no one will
sponsor my bill.
But I am working on another book, if this one sells
better I will certainly clear all my debts.
Give my love to Helen, I heard she is making a
fantastic auditor!
love,
Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:31:46 -0000
Dear Xxxxxx
Thanks for your reply. Yes things are going pretty well
and helen is doing great as an auditor.
What do you plan to do as far as the bridge is concerned?
Obviously the cycle of your leaving remains unresolved as
you never returned to complete the routing off. Some payment towards the services you had would show at least the intention to pay, which would help with your cycle, even if you dont have the wherewithall to pay it all right now.
I like to think that we had a fairly good comm line so I am not going to do that a disservice by being too social and covering up my true feelings on the cycle. You were well liked and a lot of good people put a lot of hopes and effort towards your training.
Your blow was harmful to those people who put that confidence in you. Some payment towards the bill would show the intention to start making up the damage for that and that would be very welcome.
I really would like to see those comm lines and relationships restored so I hope to hear from you soon.
Much Love
Mark Goddard
Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:52:46 +0000 (GMT)
Hi Mark,
Thank you for your email.
I also had put a lot of energy, hope, effort, money
and time, not to speak of all my life plans, on my
training and working at Plymouth Org. I will not go
into why I left with you, as you have obviously been
left out of the investigation which followed plus it
would restimulate a whole bunch of stuff which would
be very bad for the baby.
Don't forget that while on staff my stats were
consistently high and I had great results and wins.
If I had money I would start paying my debt off, not
because it would make you or anyone else at the org
feel better as I know it wouldn't; but because I
believe that Ply Org can reach Idea Org and all income
is a help. Plus I also know that it would go toward
the staff wages, which are always in short supply. I
have no pretenses nor interest of making anyone feel
good or bad with my actions, everyone is responsible
for their own feelings as you well know.
I am glad you have voiced the way you felt when I
left, I knew it at the time, but could not say
anything to you as you were not my auditor.
Thanks for that, I appreciate your honesty.
Be sure that as soon as I start earning money, some of
it will go to the Org.
love,
Xxxxxx.
Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:12:38 -0000
Dear Xxxxxx,
Hello. How are you doing?
Xxxxxx is back and doing well.
Did you have a good christmas? Are you pregnant? If so how many months?
There are lots of things I would like to know but I think thats enough questions for one e-mail so on to the reason for my e-mail. What would be really great would be for you to pay your bill off. The perfect solution would be for you to pay the whole thing off and I know you are capable of
doing this if you really decide to.
Whilst this would be great I realise that it may not be possible immediatley. It would make things much easier for Xxxxxx and us on your cycle if you at least flow something meaningful towards it. This would at
least show in to the physical universe an intention to handle the situation.
Your help in getting Xxxxxx back has been noted and is in your favour so lets at least take some step towards handling your cycle to avoid getting in to a situation which keeps you off the bridge and puts Xxxxxx in an difficult position.
much love
Mark Goddard
Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:32:29 -0800 (PST)
Dear Mark,
Lovely xmas surrounded by family and friends, it was
fantastic. The baby is dues in April, so you can
imagine the pregnancy is well into the third
trimester.
Yes, if it wasn't for me Xxxxxx would not be back on
staff.. I didn't do it for brownie points but for much
higher reasons, so don't try to use Xxxxxx as
leaverage to try to get money out of me when I have
none. The money I sent Xxxxxx was in fact put together
by family members (including Xxxxxx) for the sole
purpose of getting Xxxxxx back to Plymouth Org.
I know you have to meet your stats, I understand that
fully, but using Xxxxxx and implied threats gets my
back up no end.
If you do it again I will have to cut all comm with
you. Now that I know Xxxxxx is back on purpose I
don't really care much if you stop him talking to me
or not... get it?
Please give my regards to Helen, I hear she is doing
fantastic work.
All the best,
Xxxxxx.
Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:04:59 -0000
Dear Xxxxxx
I don't use implied threats or threats only facts so lets look at them.
Since you blew you have shown absolutely no intention to handle your situation. You know the policies on this.
Your earlier e-mails were very social and it is good to hear your news but frankly your sweet comments are not what is needed or wanted to turn this situation around right now. What we need to see is some action in the physical Universe towards handling your cycle.
Your declare is long overdue and that it hasn't been done already is an oversight. Also being totally truthful the fact that cycle hasn't been pushed through out of some consideration for Xxxxxx. That is a fact not a veiled threat.
Quite frankly your e-mail shows me that the cycle is further south than I had thought so I am passing a copy of your e-mail to HCO. I am going to wait 14 days before I write to HCO saying that there is no intention on your part
to handle the situation. They will have to action it from their end and unfortunatley Xxxxxx will have to confront the issness of what he is dealing with.
I don't expect you will admit that this means anything to you but some where on the way down the ethics gradients we will find the right one. The rest is up to you it is your family and your eternity.
As regards eternity you will be in it. How you want it to be and what condition you want to be in is up to you and that is the decision you are making right now. My earnest advice to you is don't make it on some reaction
or misemotion or take it lightly. I can see from your e-mail that I am not doing you or your situation any favours by avoiding it or alowing it to go unconfronted any longer.
ML Mark Goddard
Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:11:34 -0800 (PST)
I see your true colours have finaly shown.
Also, you have taken NO notice of what I have told you
about my financial situation.
It's really a shame. I hope you are also sending a
copy of the emails you have written to me with mine,
you need some handling.
I will not be in contact with you personaly again.
best regards,
Xxxxxx.
Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:04:59 -0000
My true colors have never been anything other than nailed firmly to the mast as far as I am aware.
Yes a copy of my E-mails will also be sent to HCO.
Also I know that you have put this on Xxxxxxs lines and a seperate report has been written on that to HCO.
Anyway I come back to the original message of my original e-mail I want you to start doing something towards your bill. Just something that shows a serious intention in the physical universe to handle your situation. If I receive it in the next 12 days ( original 14 days minus the weekend ) I
will report to HCO that you are taking steps to handle if I dont I will report that you are not.
Please do not ignore it or think that this somehow won't happen because it will. Your cycle is being looked at. I am not trying to make trouble for you as you obviusly think I am but am actually trying to help you to avoid it.
There is not really much point in any other comm except if you need any help on it logistically let me know.
Much love
Mark Goddard
Organisation Executive Secretary Plymouth.
Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:57:11 -0800 (PST)
I see you have calmed down a bit... you should deal
with whatever charge you have with regard me. What
did you do to me? Was it one of your mistakes that
messed up my case? I have to wonder now.
If you care to see what you are saying, the only
possible action you think I should take that means
anything is to give you money. Well, that action
unfortunatelly is impossible, I have no work visa in
the USA and make absolutelly no money. In fact, I even
have to ask for money for the most basic things like
sanitary pads etc. I have told you this before,
something you have not bothered to register.
As no other action is meaninful to you, then there is
nothing much I can help you with.
Oh, I hope you send this email to HCO also, please
tell them that the new President of Chile, a family
friend, now has a copy of Dianetics and also the
booklet on Human Rights, and the Minister of Education
is looking at the Basic Study Manual. The President
knows all about Xxxxxx and his going back to work for
these goals in Plymouth.
I can take actions, even without money, your small
view of "the only action I can take" is irrelevant and
untrue. These are only examples, work done in the
background using my family's influence in high places.
If I am declared, it is totally irrelevant, the rest
of the world knows nothing about declarations, and as
far as the books being used in Education etc. in
Chile, you can't stop that by declaring me, the books
speak for themselves.
As to Xxxxxx I hope you put in your report what I said
to him, that as long as he stays on purpose what
happens between us is of no consequence. My comm with
my son is honest, we do not hold secrets from each
other... you are the one who brought him into the
matter in the first place. If you didn't want this on
his lines, you should not have brought him into it.
Xxxxxx
Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:03:56 -0000
Dear Xxxxxx
Great on the things you have done to promote Scientology I will make sure that that data goes to HCO with the rest of the data.
Yes as far as I know exactly what you said to Xxxxxx has gone to HCO as well. I don't know what was said or what is in the report if you would like to add anything to it then you should write a report to HCO yourself.
The point I really want to get across is that some movement towards handling your situation of blowing from staff is what is needed to avoid the inevitable declare if we can't show that you are actually trying to handle this situation.
You are right that the money isn't the only thing which could be done.
The other is to come back and complete the routing form. I thought that with the pregnancy and wedding etc. the money is something which you could show some movement on right now and this would be easier for you. Something really does need to happen now because the cycle is being looked at by HCO and they will need tangible evidence of something so they dont have to issue a declare.
We have got about 11 days now from my original date. I await your response with something tangible in the physical universe.
Much love
Mark goddard
O. E. S. Ply
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I ARRANGED FOR A MONTHLY AMOUNT TO BE SENT TO THE ORG VIA MY BANK AND NEVER HEARD FROM MARK GODDARD AGAIN.
THE ONLY INFORMATION THE PRESIDENT AND OTHER MINISTERS RECEIVED WERE THAT ... NOTHING ACTUALLY, I never bothered to tell them anything about the church except that my son had managed to stay off drugs there and better the pan than the fire, but I wouldn't recommend it to any sane person.
Hey, what do you know, I used to speak scientologeese!